beowuuf:
you have to understand what the problem is to truly gripe about it, and thus the brain can work on it 
TehAmelie: yeah but i mean computer bugs and everything
beowuuf:
with work and computers i've found complaining seems to yield about 50/50 shot ... and there may be a sizeable margin of errir in that statement...
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kusinohki: wub wub meow wub wub
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halftrip: much wub
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RandomTrivia: Everything has been thoroughly shaken by the phat wubz
TehAmelie: *is shaken to her core by her own writng*
definenull: Wild windows sound?
RandomTrivia: *bingly-boo*
TehAmelie: aloha
baltimore_667083: hi Ian!
ArdCollider: hi Ian
baltimore_667083: IAN
goombalax: it was inevitable
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Earthenone: !patreon
RandomTrivia: Oh my gods of course it has to be that
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DaxStrife: It was a bit loud, better now.
goombalax: it was loud ya
Earthenone: a lineage of mako
RandomTrivia: Wait, why are we doing different things with our hands like a string instrument? The whole deal with a piano is that the motions are the same...
RandomTrivia:
Maybe it's prepared piano 
kusinohki: S# my favorite note
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Thefluffiestguineapig: Ok, slightly late, and just as I was typing I realized we are still in tutorial
Thefluffiestguineapig: Is Heather still busy/taking a breather from the Cafe?
Thefluffiestguineapig: I saw them doing a Peach stream on the Lunar Jade channel but they could do those sick
veelofar: Ian has two skills. Mouse and Keyboard
RandomTrivia: Ok I'm starting to get behind the mouse carrying a melody and the keyboard being the harmony
Thefluffiestguineapig: @veelofar When we can combine them that will be three skills
IaCthulhuFthagn: That's my favourite composer.
TehAmelie: this is a funny looking piano
RandomTrivia: @IaCthulhuFthagn Personally I'm a fan of Anon
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TehAmelie Hence why it's pianistic
Thefluffiestguineapig: @RandomTrivia I enjoy music credited to composers that's clearly just a name put on a bunch of things no one else wanted to take credit for
IaCthulhuFthagn: @RandomTrivia I'm arranging a song and now I'll put "This space intentionally left blank" on the composer line in the sheet music.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Ah yes, the delightful stylings of Various
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn Oh please, I would laugh just knowing that existed somewhere
SnowBuddy18: I looked up Flohwalzer and it's just an unknown composer
TehAmelie: my favorite is Gnome Ann
IaCthulhuFthagn: This sounds a lot more modern than Satie.
RandomTrivia: The "wrong" notes feel particularly jarring in this
TehAmelie: this reminds me of the music they would play to get us to lie still and relax in gym class
TehAmelie: well, reminded
IaCthulhuFthagn: Pianistic feels very much in the Trombone Champ school of rhythm games.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn I think it's because it lives in so many animes (specifically angsty teen ones)/JRPGs. Hence Ian's reference to angst at sundown on a roof as a teen
Thefluffiestguineapig: Ian are you being hampered by actual piano experience?
adept_nekomancer: @TehAmelie I don't recall ever being asked to lie still during gym class. Where I grew up gym was all about either some kind of team sport or running laps.
IaCthulhuFthagn: @Thefluffiestguineapig I mostly meant the dissonances produced by failed inputs.
adept_nekomancer: "Just lie still and relax" would have been a nice change of pace
TehAmelie: we did a lot of different things. inventing our own sport was one class
kusinohki: once in a lullibye
TehAmelie: i was the only one who came up with anything, and nobody believed in the spirit of "playing soccer while balancing a bean bag on your head"
Thefluffiestguineapig: These mouse notes are wrecking when aligned with the hold ones
TehAmelie: oof
RandomTrivia: Flawless, no, uh, notes
IaCthulhuFthagn: Oh, I definitely believe the devs are dead serious about their product.
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Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn Oh so you mean missed/wrong inputs makes it sound like a way more modern composition than it normally does?
IaCthulhuFthagn: It just feels like it would make sense if they weren't.
TehAmelie: um is this tune unusually quiet or is it the game volume?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Honestly I feel like this could use a healthy pinch of levity about it
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TehAmelie I think game volume but I was checking all my settings first
RandomTrivia:
Oshawartist: Man, the missed notes are really jarring with this game
kusinohki: game was very loud when first started. it's a little quiet now
Thefluffiestguineapig: Even if the levity was not having the notes be against a black void
ArdCollider: this is the Let's Nope of rhythm games. very ominous.
TehAmelie: a good nudge
RandomTrivia: @Oshawartist Way more than normal for this kind of game - I think it's just that the piano samples are so clean
Thefluffiestguineapig: OH BOY
kusinohki: don't suppose the keyboard notes can be changed??
IaCthulhuFthagn: Time to be snarky about their choice of key.
RandomTrivia: Well, it's 6:30 somewhere
RatherLargeToad: somewhere Wiggins is activating
Thefluffiestguineapig: This was one of the only modern songs that possibly could come up when I did high school quizbowl a billion year ago
kusinohki: maple is very confused right now...
RandomTrivia:
Oshawartist: 💃 💃 💃 D: 💃
Thefluffiestguineapig: This game's threshold for fail seems extremely strict
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RandomTrivia: The visual nature of this must be helping a lot with the 3 across 2
IaCthulhuFthagn: The "Failed" counter feels particularly harsh.
Oshawartist:
Yeah, Im vertically sensitive about my height 
ArdCollider: "vertically insensitive" sounds like a harsh date assessment
RandomTrivia: A slider that goes all the way from "twitch mouse slightly" to "half way across town between notes"
adept_nekomancer: It leans into its piano theme by asking you to do two different things with your left and right hands, I guess.
kusinohki: I never could use my left and right hand at the same time on piano (not that I ever took a lesson)
RandomTrivia:
CaptainSpam: Ah, good, now Matt's stream can start.
RandomTrivia: That was RUDE
Thefluffiestguineapig: but you can be a hardcore rhythm game (I would argue you’ve played some previously, even Fire and Ice was pretty hard core) and the fact they don’t let you change the control configuration is just not a good thing even from an accessibility standpoint
RandomTrivia: @CaptainSpam I'm ready for some boops and pops and failed drinks predictions
RandomTrivia: IAN
Thefluffiestguineapig: IAN
DaxStrife: Garry the Bussy.
RandomTrivia: I'm also amused by "Gershwine" [sic]
NotCainNorAbel: We are clearly at the end of a late 90's movie
IaCthulhuFthagn:
There's a difference between being "hardcore" in the sense of being unforgiving and just rubbing your failures in your face with the basic design 
Thefluffiestguineapig: I will say I’m not inherently knocking hardcore rhythm games, it’s more that this one is not the best execution
kusinohki: so chat - over/under on "linus and lucy" showing up in this game?
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RandomTrivia: At least all the huge arpeggios will be within hold notes
Thefluffiestguineapig: @iacthulhufthagn That’s a good way to put it
RandomTrivia: Welp
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also the fact there’s no way to gauge how close to failure you are is unfortunate
TehAmelie: i wonder if Debussy and Debusier ever worked together and how confusing that would be for everyone
RandomTrivia: I don't want to guess why it's wiggling
TehAmelie: hmm Debusier may not even be a real person
IaCthulhuFthagn: @Thefluffiestguineapig To me, the most hardcore rhythm games with the most hardcore communities tend to be games where the easy charts/maps are easy to pick up and the game just scales well way into absurdity.
kusinohki: also appears hp bar doesn't regen with correct notes...
RandomTrivia: Looks like it does, but very slowly
adept_nekomancer: It looks like it regens a bit if you get several correct in a row, but not nearly as much as you get penalized for even a single miss.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @iacthulhufthagn I will also say that games that are designed just to be unforgiving past the point of reason or sense or pointlessly hard are different than games where you can see the mechanics, can see how to do it and hit respawn. like Hotline Miami or Fire and Ice
IaCthulhuFthagn: It looks more like you never getting anything back, but after a miss there is a window (the semitransparent part of the bar) where you get penalized even harder for a successive miss.
RandomTrivia:
What a well-explained and reasoned take - that's not allowed on the internet, stop it at once
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact everything is based on one tempo which is clearly from one single recording when many of these songs can be played at sifferent tempos or levels of expressiveness
IaCthulhuFthagn: It is weird when the selection of music really favours rubato sections and rhythmic expression, yes.
RandomTrivia: Ouch
Thefluffiestguineapig: From the songs I’ve seen it’s probably because these are the free use recordings
IaCthulhuFthagn: Bossa nova does fit the rhythm game aspect a little better than Debussy or Chopin in that regard.
RandomTrivia: Welp
RandomTrivia:
That went well 
IaCthulhuFthagn: I mean... you really can't skip over Giant Steps, right?
adept_nekomancer: A train has derailed.
accountmadeforants: Fail /
Thefluffiestguineapig: Wooooooow
kusinohki: oof, think I saw "flight of the bumblebee" on the list
TehAmelie: that train went without us
goombalax: the F-train
Thefluffiestguineapig: And it manages to fall on your face
Thefluffiestguineapig: Somehow
RealGamerCow: That is too fast
RealGamerCow: Notably easy to play giant steps
Thefluffiestguineapig: Oh boy
SK__Ren: This looks interesting, what platform is the game? It looks like a mobile/tablet game
Thefluffiestguineapig: That’s a tempo
IaCthulhuFthagn: The fact that it isn't just a random beginner version of Take the A Train but with Ellington's embellishments is telling.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @sk__ren PC
RandomTrivia: Roll speed needs to be waaaay slower than that
RandomTrivia: game pls
adept_nekomancer: Making this a reflex game was... a decision.
TehAmelie: pianissimo, game, pls
RandomTrivia: Bahahahaha
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact the roll speed goes up THAT much with a tempo that doesn’t need to have it is not great
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IaCthulhuFthagn: Yeah, this is the speed you want notes when you have played a couple hundred hours and started embodying an intuitive response.
kusinohki: so I'm having flashbacks to attending some of my sister's recitals...
RandomTrivia: Sight-reading isn't supposed to be a twitch-reflex exercise
IaCthulhuFthagn: LOL
adept_nekomancer: Wait, so it goes up to 10, and then there's a "Hard 3"?
IaCthulhuFthagn: "Happy Birthday but it's Jazz"
TehAmelie: maybe everyone knows this but "pianissimo" means "softly". clearly not this game's forte
IaCthulhuFthagn: Game plz.
kusinohki: where's my pun jail emote for tehamelie?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Oh 10 is they feel empowered to move the mouse circle??????
TehAmelie: okay i deserve pun jail for that
RandomTrivia:
TehAmelie 
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ArdCollider: throttle the GPU in the nVidia panel!
IaCthulhuFthagn: I'm sure lowering bus speed won't run into any problems.
ArdCollider: (which is how people were getting broken-ass guns in Destiny during the Craftening, turning the GPU down to 20fps)
Thefluffiestguineapig: I stood up to feed my cats and suddenly heard Ian’s spot on trumpet impression and almost dropped their food
ArdCollider: I suspect it'll unhinge the sound sync, but that could also be entertaining.
DaxStrife: We don't want a repeat of "Has anyone discovered what Ian did to the streaming computer?"
definenull: That's an ominous title
adept_nekomancer: Why is Chopin a difficulty level?!?
SK__Ren: @ArdCollider Wait what? This sounds wild.
TehAmelie: it's Butjazz's birthday
RandomTrivia: Happy birthday to both your face and the ground
Cptasparagus: someone told me I was a hard 3 the other day, but I think they meant it differently
IaCthulhuFthagn: I wouldn't be surprised to find "Happy Birthday but it's Giant Steps" lower on the list given the memes already.
ArdCollider: @SK__Ren @SK__Ren you had to put a gun into the Relic and then _manage to swap it for another one_ with a different perks list... and the Relic wouldn't check to make sure the perks and the gun were compatible.
definenull:
gsyhiap:
SnowBuddy18: yes
RandomTrivia:
Cheeky little Clair de Lune in there as well
TehAmelie: i rolled a hard 3 once and it was for my D&D sorcerer's Str
SnowBuddy18: a little bit every time
kusinohki: I thought I heard "hard 3", but I'm worried they meant "hardly a 3"
IaCthulhuFthagn: There's some nice symmetry to that.
gsyhiap: Too much jazz!
ArdCollider: which ends in auto rifles blowing out shotgun pellets etc.
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Thefluffiestguineapig: I will say Difficulty Level Chopin sounds like another Danger Level Dolphin
RandomTrivia:
kusinohki: that was a quick transition to "F U for playing this"
definenull: Was hoping for some random turnaround
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact the scroll is changing speeds here is WILD
definenull: O7
RandomTrivia: Wheeeeeeeeeee!
RandomTrivia:
Arclight_Dynamo: no
SnowBuddy18: well then
gsyhiap:
IaCthulhuFthagn: The tension of everyone waiting for a fakeout was palpable.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Welp
RealGamerCow: Taking a hard 8 is difficult.
Thefluffiestguineapig: If this is at the intended tempo boy
IaCthulhuFthagn: That feels at least eight hard.
BalthusHomewood: So goes the P-Ian-Ist
SnowBuddy18: I wonder what a 10 looks like
RandomTrivia: "This scene is ridiculous enough"
warkr0: e mina?
DaxStrife: Now I want to create a drink called the "Chopin Special."
Thefluffiestguineapig: Wait, you need to UNLOCK PRACTICE MODE???????
RandomTrivia: This is another one like Clair de Lune, where it's all in the expression and trying to match someone else's performance is a mess
Thefluffiestguineapig: What does the gears mean???
warkr0: lmaooo
TehAmelie: i missed something. do you at least unlock it by failing, like in DMC?
warkr0: this game is so involved
TehAmelie: !quote Chopin
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kusinohki: the gears are hold mouse clicks I think
warkr0: good enough
adept_nekomancer: Chopin didn't deserve this. Maybe Mozart, for his subterranian pyramids, but not Chopin.
BalthusHomewood: Maybe he'll get Chopissed
Thefluffiestguineapig: @RandomTrivia I think a lot of Chopin is like that, something technical from the Classical period prior to Beethoven being angsty might be more reliably doable?
IaCthulhuFthagn: This feels almost as weird as Eternal Sonata lore.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @adept_nekomancer Dude, for real
definenull: That would be so cool tho
kusinohki: now play Chopin Broccali
Thefluffiestguineapig: DUDE
definenull: Oh no
TehAmelie: playing music so bad Chopin comes back to life to tell you to stop would be good, in a way
SnowBuddy18: the Delorian motor coach has a piano in it at all times
IaCthulhuFthagn: The turns will be fun.
definenull: Oh because the rubato will kill ya
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also if Chopin was speaking English I would be amazed
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact it counts wrong keys as harshly as mistimed ones is wild to me
RandomTrivia: Oh I think it didn't count as a success because you're in Practice
Thefluffiestguineapig: And that those two stack so you lose even faster?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Woooof
TehAmelie: my favorite part was when he said "It's Choppin' time" and etc etc
IaCthulhuFthagn: I like a rhythm game where the UI gets too cluttered to be able to differentiate between different notes.
kusinohki: I'm really not liking the screen shake...
Thefluffiestguineapig: Practice mode off?
RandomTrivia:
Excellent start
RatherLargeToad: was secretly hoping for the Bayonetta version
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RealGamerCow: Verisimilitude broken
definenull: But I just sat down!
Juliamon: *clapclap* Everyone up, I don't care if you just got here
TehAmelie: you don't have to go home but you can't say here oh wait it's just a five minute break
TehAmelie: so today my brain totally made up some kind of famous 19th century painter/composer named Debusier
definenull: I'm not going mad right? We are actually giving the game the silent treatment?
GapFiller:
brutalist ambient piano
TehAmelie: i might have confused Debussy and Corbusier, yeah
GapFiller: it figures ambient brutalism is just industrial
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Arclight_Dynamo: I always thought it was Gershwin.
definenull: Yeah I thought there's no e at the end
Thefluffiestguineapig: Nope, you're correct
SquareDotCube: probably thinking of Hammerstein?
Thefluffiestguineapig: There
Thefluffiestguineapig: I don't think Gershwin has an E
Thefluffiestguineapig: @SquareDotCube but his name doesn't end in an E either!!!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Thefluffiestguineapig (I know you were meaning the long i sound, I'm being silly)
RealGamerCow: To be fair, the gorilla boys were in last
IaCthulhuFthagn: This game has all my favourite composers... Gerswine, Chopwine, Debusswine...
IaCthulhuFthagn: (And yes, I mistyped their misspelling)
DaxStrife: Gersh for the Win(e)!"
IaCthulhuFthagn: This game more than any other rhythm game feels like the right place for the "hp is just a resource" point.
definenull: Please don't tell me the third movement is in here too
IaCthulhuFthagn: Does this game support custom charts/maps?
definenull: clap
IaCthulhuFthagn: I want to see someone chart Hamelin's Circus Galop.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn Do you just want the Pianistic fanbase (if they exist) to hate you?
IaCthulhuFthagn: (Or, you know, TTFAF, because all rhythm games need TTFAF)
IaCthulhuFthagn: IAN
Thefluffiestguineapig: This is another maximum expressiveness one
Thefluffiestguineapig: This is one of them composers most people literally anatomically can't play because he had a 7 inch hand span!
TehAmelie: nobody's ready for Elise
definenull: didn't know elise was a furry
Thefluffiestguineapig: Furry Ellis, is he a regular at Sakura Con?
IaCthulhuFthagn: Only a few Rach pieces require the absurd reach though.
IaCthulhuFthagn: Though for my favourite take on that, see Igudesman and Joo's joke about it (from A Little Nightmare Music, among other shows), where Hyung-ki Joo plays Rachmaninov with large wood block spacers for the big chords.
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact they keep swapping the melody from keyboard to mouse is deeply frustrating
IaCthulhuFthagn: This game feels like it lacks "best practices" for charting from the get go.
definenull: Oh no the anger giggles
IaCthulhuFthagn: There's no real consistent charting style between chards.
IaCthulhuFthagn: charts*
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn Nope, no consistent scrolling speed even within pieces
goombalax: "Hi, I'm a game designer. I am going to make two separate abstractions for 2 different methods of input and then I'm going to hide them all over the screen"
IaCthulhuFthagn: I mean, scroll speed doesn't have to be consistent, I would argue it's better to leave control of that to the charter... but you want it to be chosen deliberately and well.
Arclight_Dynamo: I don't think this is a very good game?
RealGamerCow: Bit.trip time?
TehAmelie: i think i heard a glissando at the end, how did the piano even do that?
BrowneePoints: They throwin their whole Debussy into this game
IaCthulhuFthagn:
@TehAmelie: The pitch bend wheel
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BrowneePoints: you do piano glissandos with the back of your hand
BrowneePoints: well..."glissandos"
mjiig: Some rhythm games do make me wonder if I should go and play the piano instead
IaCthulhuFthagn: "Interesting" is a different bar to clear than "good". There are a lot of interesting rhythm games out there. Not to mention even more "interesting" supposed piano learning tools that translate at least as poorly to the real thing.
IaCthulhuFthagn: Playing Dark Souls on a Guitar Hero controller is interesting.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TehAmelie This set of piano controls or the real piano?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn But this isn't even a genuine teaching tool
gsyhiap: If your control schema is more complex than it would be to plug in a midi keyboard and play the music on that, I wonder what the designers are trying to achieve
IaCthulhuFthagn: @Thefluffiestguineapig: No, that's an unrelated point, but there are supposed teaching tools that are worse at their job than many rhythm games that don't try to be.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @gsyhiap For real, especially when a lot of the music would be deeply difficult on the midi keyboard and this is STILL harder
goombalax: @IaCthulhuFthagn DDR mat is the true gamer's choice
mjiig: Mistakes manifesting as audio distortion, rather than the wrong piano sounds, is an interesting choice I'm not a fan of
TehAmelie: is it for people who think the piano is too easy?
IaCthulhuFthagn: @goombalax: Racing wheels for other games are up there as well.
IaCthulhuFthagn: @mjiig GH did it so we are doing it too.
ArdCollider: tired: Dark Souls on your Rock Band controllers; wired: Dark Souls on your Eurorack synth
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Thefluffiestguineapig: @mjiig Stacking mistakes is also a big deal when everything is a mistake and an equally weighted mistake and repeated notes might switch keys
mjiig: @IaCthulhuFthagn Lots of rhythm games do it, but something about this one really bothers me, I think because electronic distortion and piano are such an odd and unpleasant mix
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goombalax: thats nonsense
Darleysam: you can't just... do that
gsyhiap: This game is very silly
Thefluffiestguineapig: @mjiig For me the big deal is the designers almost seem to expect the game and the mechanics to speak for themselves with the way this is laid out and it's so profoundly not
RandomTrivia: Welp
IaCthulhuFthagn: @ArdCollider I'm sure modular could be good for zips in Elden Ring.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yes
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn There's I think a category at GDQ which is things on Guitar Hero controller that do not seem like they should be possible
IaCthulhuFthagn: Showcases of games played in weird ways is always fun.
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact you also have to move the mouse around the screen to click within the specific level in addition to clicking when they want is such garbage
Darleysam: yeah that pace change is complete dog water
warkr0: what the hell was that
RealGamerCow: As cameron would say, this is some hot loose horse shit
TehAmelie: rewriting Super Mario World with the controller never gets old
IaCthulhuFthagn: I wonder if this game really wants another pointing device than a mouse.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Darleysam And total control scheme shift
Darleysam: @Thefluffiestguineapig yyyyyep
iris_of_ether: oh noooo
IaCthulhuFthagn: @TehAmelie As in the human viable ACE setups?
Darleysam: it's a huge failure in the way they've chosen to present the prompts
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Darleysam And not sure if you were here earlier but they sometimes change the key press associated with a specific note
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Thefluffiestguineapig Midsong
warkr0: this game seems infuriating
Darleysam: @Thefluffiestguineapig oh, yeah caught that, that honks too. Don't do that, rhythm games.
TehAmelie: @IaCthulhuFthagn yeah
warkr0: on a separate note, clair de lune is such a great song
IaCthulhuFthagn: There is some interesting tension to experiencing (even vicariously, through Ian) deep frustration soundtracked by impressionist solo piano.
warkr0: what a game.
iris_of_ether: Now to look up whether we've played Sayonara Wild Hearts on here or not...
iris_of_ether: re: Clare de Lune
Juliamon: We have
iris_of_ether:
warkr0: sayanara wild hearts was so damn good
IaCthulhuFthagn: "Such a good game" - Ian, definitely referring to Pianistic rather than anything else being discussed
Darleysam: quick, who wants to join in my sklassical music project
eff_the_bard: it's not the same if you don't have to use your right foot to feather the sustain pedal
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn Same as "I heard Creed was good" Kathleen deVere
IaCthulhuFthagn: @Thefluffiestguineapig XD
TehAmelie: maybe we can do an arbitrary code insertion and turn this game into Sayonara Wild Hearts
IaCthulhuFthagn: @Darleysam I'm more into the early renaisska music movement.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn Oh! is that where you add a lute string output onto one of the brass instruments and just have them play the existing part?
Darleysam: @IaCthulhuFthagn can't tempt you with some Mozskart?
eff_the_bard: I have to say, debussy doesn't make fingering easy
Juliamon: that... ehrghghghghghg
Thefluffiestguineapig: @eff_the_bard (resisting the urge to just make the easy that's what the music major said joke)
Juliamon: this game is cursed
eff_the_bard: don't worry, everyone struggles with debussy's fingering
Thefluffiestguineapig: Why continue? You don't seem to be having a good time and I at least would be down for some just music chats
BalthusHomewood: Any Vivaldi in this arsenal?
Ugh_Sunlight: @eff_the_bard oh no oh no oh no
Juliamon: Thefluffiestguineapig I mean, we only have 15m left
BalthusHomewood: Caire Duh Loon
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BalthusHomewood Didn't see any in our first scroll through of just "let's try this just to see what it's like"
Juliamon: plus at this point I kinda want to teach the game a lesson
Strebenherz: That's a good way to put it
Strebenherz: Wait. Does it sound off when you miss notes or just always?
TehAmelie: by "teaching it a lesson" do you mean "cast it into the fire"?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Who knew music besides badly done atonal was accurately described by the "Uncanny valley of music"
Ugh_Sunlight: send it into the sea
eff_the_bard: fingering jokes aside, don't worry Ian, Clair de Lune is an incredibly difficult piece even in real piano
IaCthulhuFthagn: "Clair de Lune but it's cursed" is a title that would show up in my recommended videos on YouTube
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TehAmelie Whatever they do with the miserable in a no fun way games from W+P
BalthusHomewood: Claude Debussy composed other ephemeral piano works, but I feel like that's the only one people know him for
gsyhiap: That was extra jazzy
iris_of_ether: We took the F Train
gsyhiap: and the A-flat train
IaCthulhuFthagn: This is my reharm of _.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BalthusHomewood They went hard for a bunch of Chopin in this game I think because the specific expressiveness of the random single recording and lack of tempo slider
IaCthulhuFthagn: I had to change the melody a bunch as well.
BalthusHomewood: @Thefluffiestguineapig clever
gsyhiap: The "cat walking over the keyboard" reharmonisation
Thefluffiestguineapig: I think Liszt was another one with the giant handspan that makes it challenging to even attempt
BalthusHomewood: "Giant Trips and Falls Down A Staircase"
Thefluffiestguineapig: Because we like to hate ourselves in managable ways
gsyhiap: I feel like that trying to play Giant Steps on a real instrument tbh
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BalthusHomewood Oh, did you not hear the first attempt earlier? This was ironically better (not saying it was good)
IaCthulhuFthagn: There was a moment there where we could hear the song.
BalthusHomewood: "If you die in the Fantasie Impromptu, you die for REAL!"
Snowcookies: we try indeed
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn There was also a moment we could see the utter horseshit
BalthusHomewood: @Thefluffiestguineapig no, true this was definitely better
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact this also starts with holding the mouse clicker down and dragging it all over the screen which they don't really do ever is SO MEAN
BalthusHomewood: The game just mugged you there
gsyhiap: The flight of the bumblecat
IaCthulhuFthagn: I'm getting more and more curious about the details of how the game chooses wrong notes to play when you miss.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BalthusHomewood Mugged to the point of stealing a kidney
Invitare: these bees are definitely alive
BalthusHomewood: @Thefluffiestguineapig He nver even got tot the top of Candy Mountain
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah if you miss the inception of any of the mouse holds you're fucked here
Thefluffiestguineapig: @gsyhiap Fall of the bumblecat
definenull: Enor?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Enor is correct here tho
Thefluffiestguineapig: You being the game
IaCthulhuFthagn: The one note samba would be an unironically good piece for this game.
BalthusHomewood: like putting in reps at the gym
IaCthulhuFthagn: Sharpened blade no. 1.
Thefluffiestguineapig: If you miss a mouse click you have to keep tracking where it goes so you will possibly hit the next one
Thefluffiestguineapig: That's so bad
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jessicaengle:
IaCthulhuFthagn: Seems easy enough.
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact what you are playing on screen has functionally no relationship with what you're hearing is also not great
Anubis169 hugs everybody
jessicaengle: This game seems difficult
Juliamon: it's not difficult, it's bullshit
Thefluffiestguineapig: ACTION participates in hugs
IaCthulhuFthagn: Dragon's Lair for the NES is difficult.
IaCthulhuFthagn: It is also bullshit.
IaCthulhuFthagn: The arcade game on laser disc is BS in a completely different way.
Anubis169:
playing the real thing is easier than this 
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Anubis169 I would argue some of the legendary "level up your piano lessons" classics pieces in this list are easier than this version
Darleysam: making me want to load up PianoVision on the Quest and have another crack at learning
silenceaux: I've only been watching for a little while, but it seems that this game forces you to react rather than let you anticipate.
Anubis169: it's making me want to grab the sheet music and go downstairs to the piano
jessicaengle:
iris_of_ether: Games that make you practice the IRL instrument through spite
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Darleysam I wish I had the time! I can't hyperfocus on that when I'm in human a&p part 1 this semester and 2 next semester
Thefluffiestguineapig: @iris_of_ether Spite can be a real motivation as long as you also enjoy the activity
warkr0: what a game
Anubis169:
Thank you Ian!! 
warkr0:
Thefluffiestguineapig: I want a full Enor EP so bad now
ArdCollider: send Heather our regards and accept our condolences, Ian
definenull:
Anubis169: It is now b33r o'clock
jessicaengle: uuuh bye!
Juliamon: Heatherrrr
Snowcookies: ty for the stream
Strebenherz: Ian you just intro'd yourself
iris_of_ether: oh no
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Darleysam: @Thefluffiestguineapig I used to have lessons as a kid, and I now regret so much not sticking with it
RandomTrivia: Oop
IaCthulhuFthagn: @iris_of_ether Was this game secretly a very good instrument learning tool all along?
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Darleysam:
oh sick playing Pianistic? Wonder how that'll go 
Thefluffiestguineapig: @IaCthulhuFthagn That's the 4d chess of motivation right there
Snowcookies: !patreon
Snowcookies: !youtube
Thefluffiestguineapig: Been trying to at least catch some Yakuza on VOD at least
Snowcookies: !store
jubale1: I liked the umbrella scene
IaCthulhuFthagn: Time to flush my ears with some P.D.Q. Bach.
Juliamon: New guest!
iris_of_ether:
Thefluffiestguineapig: New guest hype!
NotCainNorAbel:
500
Thefluffiestguineapig: Pianistic caused all Ian's myriad references to take a long time to spool up
the_phantom_game_player: Sounded just like Cori
Juliamon: The finale!
IaCthulhuFthagn: Frootocol, a protocol with 100% artificial fruit flavouring.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Enor saves everything
Thefluffiestguineapig: Maybe you should come guest on Oki Oki just to name a character Pianistic and have someone beat them to a pulp
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jessicaengle:
Tootleoo chat.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Miserable game still good stream!
Anubis169: many thanks Ian!
Flyingdelorion: Thanks Ian till next time!
Thefluffiestguineapig: Thanks so much Ian!!!!
KWardJenx: Thank you, Ian
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