Too_Many_Knives: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Adam take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: Diablo 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (24s from now).
Malkaresh: Cam and Adam! Neat.
SenseAmidstMadness: All Adam all day
wildpeaks: so Cori was just temporary co-host, or it's just a one-off ? It was nice having a game dev on talking sim (although Adam is great too, of course :) )
SenseAmidstMadness: @wildpeaks It's Cam + a rotating co-host, for now
TehAmelie: the intimidatingly smart one and the intimidatingly strong one. uh, that team name needs some work
Rockario: The Intimidators
darkalter2000: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Adam take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: Diablo 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (2m ago).
MrOrderlyChaos: I've been out of the loop for a while, no Alex?
wildpeaks: Cadam as team name ? :D
Earthenone: no alex
SenseAmidstMadness: No, Alex stopped doing this show a little while ago
r10pez10: The Two Soft Talkers
OriginalGarwulf: So, two things for this stream - first, I have written and been published on the topic of Diablo: https://www.pcgamesn.com/most-important-pc-games-diablo and https://www.cgmagonline.com/2017/05/08/diablo-became-instant-classic/
SenseAmidstMadness: He's focusing his creative energies on his other project
SenseAmidstMadness: s
sir_jack_DB: @MrOrderlyChaos: Alex is taking a break from Let's Nope and Talking Sim for a while to focus on his own work
TehAmelie: Garwulf is so OG, he's an NPC in this game
holidayMD: Talk soft and carry big sticks
Rockario: So...OG is OG? lrrBEEJ
holidayMD: sticks = muscles
wildpeaks: which probably means drawing a bunch of anime titties and other R-rated works, seeing his alt :D
OriginalGarwulf: Second, I am the author of the e-book that launched the entire Blizzard fiction line, Diablo Demonsbane, and I pulled out my copy of the 2000 Diablo writer's bible for this stream. So if anybody wants to know about the state of the worldbuilding when D2 was released, I CAN answer it.
sir_jack_DB: O.O
sopranocat: @OriginalGarwulf Cool
Novus_Spes: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Adam take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: Diablo 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (4m ago).
JerecoPlays: That is awesome.
sir_jack_DB: thanks, that's rad
wildpeaks: That's great OriginalGarwulf
OriginalGarwulf: (And, I do have an item named after me in Diablo III, the Cloak of the Garwulf, which is named after my column. I don't have an NPC named after me. It would have been really cool, though...)
sopranocat: Aww, amazon doesn't have it? Booo
Seagulyus: OriginalGarwulf that's rad :D
SileeOneNow: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Adam take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: Diablo 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (5m ago).
OriginalGarwulf: And for the record, when Diablo II was released, Diablo III WAS being planned, and the early version of its plot appears in the writer's bible.
sir_jack_DB: wao
SileeOneNow: !advice
LRRbot: Ponder your fists!
OriginalGarwulf: If you want to find Demonsbane, try looking for Diablo Archive - it was published in that omnibus as well.
sopranocat: Thanks!
BishopSansPants: !badadvice
LRRbot: Have you checked your butt?
r10pez10: mine's still there
Earthenone: !findbutt
LRRbot: Behind you.
wildpeaks: might be a mimic
OriginalGarwulf: Alright, Amazon has it (although you'd probably have to buy it used).
LaconicLad: That's not bad advice at all. Someone should re-categorize some of these advices.
ritchards: !badadvice
LRRbot: Enter the blaggole.
SenseAmidstMadness: ^ Don't do that one
LaconicLad: OK. Yeah, that's bad advice.
r10pez10: the line between !advice and !badadvice has always been blurry
TehAmelie: hmm !findbutt could have "Nope, that's a mimic" as a result
Novus_Spes: HA! That would be funny.
sopranocat: I have a bed that rotates between the Half-Price Books in my area ^_^
Earthenone: title change
ChiefEngineerMichael: !findbutt
LRRbot: Behind you.
SenseAmidstMadness: I believe the line between !advice and !badadvice has always been "where is it funnier"
r10pez10: !advice
LRRbot: Run behind it, and stab it in the back.
ChiefEngineerMichael: !live
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PrinceNimzar: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Adam take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: Diablo 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (8m ago).
sir_jack_DB: some install issues, they'll start soon
BrindleBoar: D2 is firmly in the "it's done when it's done" install speed era
SenseAmidstMadness: "Install issues" namely Blizzard's download servers apparently run at about 200 kB/s
ritchards: So we're back to Clicker games!
wildpeaks: :D
SenseAmidstMadness: I mean, technically most games are clicker games
Nigouki: i thought it was taking so long because Adam was still organizing his "strong opinions" notebooks for D2
SileeOneNow: !advice
LRRbot: Don't do surgery on your friends.
Novus_Spes: @SenseAmidstMadness You are not wrong.
SenseAmidstMadness: Except for the ones that are typer games, or controller games
sopranocat: Confession: I've never played orig Diablo, only 2 and 3
TehAmelie: there is in fact a dumb limit on the battlenet downloader that you have to scroll down on an options menu that doesn't look like it can be scrolled down on to find
Novus_Spes: @TehAmelie Really? I must see this! *opens client
BishopSansPants: Better than me, I played D2 and no other.
sopranocat: I normally don't evangelize mods, but I sure hope they're using one of the mule programs for this. Diablo 2's inventory limit is truly ridiculous for the desing of the game
sopranocat: design*
TehAmelie: i spent like a day trying to download WoW at 256K before i figured that out
NathanJay_GA: !findquote diablo
LRRbot: Could not find any matching quotes.
Kramburger: D1 is worth a play once for nostalgia and to get a couple of references in the sequels, but D2 was a strict upgrade
DoodlestheGreat: I've never played any Diablo games. Watched a bunch of others, but the only ARPG I've played is Path of Exile. Still playing it, too.
BrindleBoar: Original Diablo is probably unplayable for anyone who didn't play it back when. It does a very good job of producing a threatening, oppressive atmosphere, whereas most other ARPGs go out of their way to make you feel powerful. It's just a very different experience.
sir_jack_DB: @sopranocat: PlugY?
sir_jack_DB: that's what I use
SenseAmidstMadness: @TehAmelie It really defaults to 256K?
incredulouspasserby: Is there an update as to when they're starting?
margieargie: I played the original Diablo a little bit and... nothing since, honestly.
TehAmelie: it did for me
sopranocat: @sir_jack_DB It's been a bit, I don't remember off the top of my head what one I used honestly
SenseAmidstMadness: Is this program from the 90s?!?
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> Adam and Cameron are playing Diablo 2 on tonight's Talking Simulator! http://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun 📷 https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/DtDinGkVYAAcjim.jpg || https://www.twitter.com/loadingreadyrun/status/1067602335604461569
wildpeaks: lrrSIGNAL
SenseAmidstMadness: WE HAVE SIGNAL
incredulouspasserby: Never mind found them
DoctorOfBeard: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
The_Ocean_who_Subbed: lrrSIGNAL
Kramburger: lrrSIGNAL seabatBRAIN lrrSIGNAL
SenseAmidstMadness: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
BishopSansPants: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
margieargie: (Not in an "I didn't like it" sense, just a "too many other things to play" sense.)
Earthenone: lrrDOTS lrrSIGNAL lrrARROW
Novus_Spes: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
SenseAmidstMadness: Red 2 standing by
sopranocat: Then again, that's definitely a good topic for discussion, inventory limits and what works and doesn't for types of games and how the design makes you play
r10pez10: you thought it was James Day but it's actually Adam Day, baabeh
mayday_24: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
SenseAmidstMadness: @r10pez10 Those...are the same?
Too_Many_Knives: Main screen turn on.
TacitusVigil: Ah, Diablo. The Spanish Devil. The most cunning of devils, in fact.
SenseAmidstMadness: I'm still waiting for Rusev Day, tbh
TehAmelie: remember how in this game you have to spend an inventory slot on keys to open chests? and a max stack is 12?
Izandai: @SenseAmidstMadness But that was today!
Earthenone: i do remember that, yes
BishopSansPants: Is the Spanish Devil like Spanish Fly, only hotter?
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Spacecarl: #DarkCloudTuesday
delta__vee: I wonder if I have an OG d2 save around anywhere...
OriginalGarwulf: For those who are interested, there's a fan-made HD Diablo mod/conversion that's REALLY good. You should be able to find it by searching for "Diablo HD."
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SenseAmidstMadness: Goodbye timer
OriginalGarwulf: And, the original Diablo did a lot of things in a way that would be familiar to Dark Souls players, including having a lot of trust in the player.
TehAmelie: is Phrozenkeep still the standard D2 mod database? i can recommend looking around there anyway if anyone wants to experiment
sir_jack_DB: hold
sir_jack_DB: wait for it
SenseAmidstMadness holds
OriginalGarwulf: (Sorry for not adding this earlier, but my baby daughter was climbing Mount Daddy, and she always takes priority.)
Izandai holds butt
Earthenone: !findquote it
LRRbot: Could not find any matching quotes.
LordLaeron: weedDab sup guys
Novus_Spes: @OriginalGarwulf Trust in the player? But *sniff* no one has ever believed in me before!
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Izandai: !findquote hold
LRRbot: Quote #4503: "Bus King is a title you hold in your heart, not in your pants." —Kathleen [2017-11-19]
ElementalAlchemist: I still love the Talk Sim intro
SenseAmidstMadness: The mountain dew shot always legit makes me feel sick
r10pez10: i forgot how good the TS intro was
ElementalAlchemist: It's so good
TacitusVigil: We're here!
Izandai: @OriginalGarwulf Hard truth.
Earthenone: pride51
Kramburger: WE'RE HERE!
NotCainNorAbel: Adam!
TehAmelie: hello boys
JinaMahavira: Adam looking Flyyyyyyy
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Himyul: Alex looks....more like James
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BishopSansPants: All the LRR intros are honestly a treat.
Malkaresh: Sweet Adam on talking sim!
ChiefEngineerMichael: cheer100 Where are we, Adam?
MadAran87: So, the Best Diablo.
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Master_Gunner: Diablo II may still have the most hours of any game I've played.
Spacecarl: #DarkCloudTuesday
TheExactSame: so.... much.... Adam
Armstrong11139: I have to say, the light/dark aesthetic tonight is on point
CleverCrumbish: There's even a Commodore Hustle bit about how much Adam played this game
incredulouspasserby: Shit I was 3
DoctorOfBeard: clicky clicky clicky clicky
NotCainNorAbel: never.....enought.....Adam
Izandai: I was a year out from existing.
strgrv: Is Adam on every stream today because he’s procrastinating spectator mode? Kappa
Amazonian: I heard there was D2 to be had here
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Gekyouryuu: wait, what year?
sopranocat: Whooo! Food got here just in time for me to grab it and get back here!
Zebunisher: 2 friends of mine played diablo up untill (and even a little past) diablo came out
Novus_Spes: I love video game memories.
Amazonian: D2 is a good game. Good demon-fighting fun times
Zebunisher: *diablo 2 and 3 i mean
incredulouspasserby: @strgrv He mentioned on an earlier stream it's 99% done, just one last check and edit and it's good to go
TehAmelie: heeh, right, the clothes. are you cosplaying as a casually dressed Necromancer and Paladin respectively?
punchcardy: Diablo I and II basically fulfilled my lifetime quota of clicking.
NotCainNorAbel: And somehow now I'm old
tenthtechpriest: he remembers it so well he forgot the year
SharpCookies: my ex insisted we play this a few years ago, I enjoy it but I definitely lack the childhood nostalgia and fondness for it
OriginalGarwulf: LRR: In case the PM to Cam didn't arrive, I wrote the first piece of published Diablo fiction (Diablo Demonsbane), and I located my writer's bible for this stream. So if you have questions about the worldbuilding at the time, I can answer them.
TrakoZG: I bought the Collector's Edition of DiabloII, and it had a DVD with extras, and I didn't have a DVD player then
Zebunisher: diablo 1 was one of the first games i bought instead of pirating it.100% worth it
Amazonian: Thicc ones Kreygasm
The_Ocean_who_Subbed: whoaaa really OriginalGarwulf? That's awesome!
lifecharacter: Thick booklets to read while the game was installing.
CleverCrumbish: Now Adam made Spectator Mode he can't pretend he's not a smart gamesm'n anymore so he gotta be on TalkSim
Amazonian: That's awesome OriginalGarwulf!
SydPreviouslyHeadache: HI Cam and Adam, hi chat
Izandai: @OriginalGarwulf Well that's heckin' sweet.
Novus_Spes: "Gather round children, and I shall tell you the tale of video game manuals."
RvLeshrac: D2 came with a second disc, for multiplayer.
Nicarrow: HI all
TehAmelie: my first encounter with D1 was on PS1, dubbed to Swedish. it was incredibly bad
ritchards: Gritty is in Diablo?
SajuukSjet: remember the manuals you got in the WarCraft BattleChest?
TehAmelie: remember? i've still got them
OriginalGarwulf: Diablo II is very much about redemption, while the original was about corruption (thematically speaking).
ReverseCreations: @ritchards thanks to a massive misunderstanding of Quantum Physics, Gritty is in EVERYTHING.
sopranocat: Y'know, that's one thing I really miss from physical game copy time--those beautifully illustrated thick game manuals stuffed with bits of story and gameplay bits and lore
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Kramburger: TBF, D2 ends with the stone that protects the world being destroyed due to corruption
punchcardy: Grimdark
Novus_Spes: @OriginalGarwulf That follows yeah.
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BloodnBullets: its sad that detailed manuals arent a thing anymore, but i guess they dont shift units. :(
ElementalAlchemist: I remember having 56k at the time
SajuukSjet: tehamelie: i think i lost mine in one of my many moves.... only got the Homeworld GOTY manual definitely left... :(
Izandai: The only reason I would prefer a story about a world where shit's fucked is because when you start at the bottom there's so much further to rise.
tenthtechpriest: it's because all the kids are eating battlenet bandwidth updating destiny 2
Novus_Spes: Let the Grimdank memes flow!
punchcardy: 33.6 for the fancy folk
TehAmelie: aw
Earthenone: this is the first game i passed out playing all night and made progress that i was unaware of
coelopteryx: i understand the feeling, that's what spyro is to me
Izandai: @BloodnBullets I think we just figured out that it's better to have good tutorials.
CleverCrumbish: @sopranocat I love that GOG sends you scan pdfs of the manuals if the game had one. It's not the same, but it's still nice to open those up and reminisce
wildpeaks: also tied to a period of your life
Spacecarl: This is gonna make me install it and figure out a mono skeleton summoning necro build, isn't it?
TehAmelie: it was Warcraft 2 for me but i see where you're comin from
tenthtechpriest: next up on spectator mode: diablo 2
SajuukSjet: clevercrumbish: tis nice, especially if that's the only way you're going to see the art and stories in them
Amazonian: Baby horses with their grossnasty feet?
SenseAmidstMadness: Adam "Baby Horse" Savidan
BloodnBullets: @Izandai they had more than just tutorial, they had lore and art
sopranocat: @CleverCrumbish Yeah, those Sierra and Xork manuals, mmmm
NotCainNorAbel: For me it was Team Fortress (not TF2)
TacitusVigil: Oh no, this is Archer's speech from the Season 2 opening of Enterprise. Kappa
wicker_knight: "Smart enough to break things and get hurt, not experienced enough to know how not to"
coelopteryx: "high school feels like you're a baby horse" - this is equal parts entertaining and Extremely True
Amazonian: I loved playing D2 on Lan with my brothers. It was a good time
Earthenone: yes
Earthenone: yeeeeees
SajuukSjet: LAN play has been so underserved these days .... :)
Izandai: @BloodnBullets We also figured out that it's better to/became able to just put that stuff in the game, too.
MadAran87: I still watch the cinematics from this game.
Koshindan: Run glide to get better graphics in game? D2 looks really aged without it.
sopranocat: I named all my D2 chars after X-Men characters
Amazonian: Spoilers: Deckard Cain is old.
BusTed: Marius...
VoidByAnyOtherName: spoilers, they go into the east
Kramburger: God, this takes me back already. This video caught my imagination FOREVER
Master_Gunner: the cinematics were *so good*
tenthtechpriest: spoilers: you stay a while and listen
sopranocat: trying to remember which class was Wolverine
xantos69: Hey kids I'm back. Who doesn't love Diablo II?
SenseAmidstMadness: Inb4 the game just doesn't run on anything newer than windows ME
lifecharacter: You murder the heroes from Diablo I in Diablo II.
Zebunisher: @Amazonian when was deckard cain not old?
Kramburger: 'Sanctuary'
wicker_knight: Assassin was Wolverine (i.e. could use claws)
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couldntpickausername: it's amazing how good this cinematic stil looks
BloodnBullets: deckard cain was born old
FarleyF: D2 cutscenes are absolutely the best - especially Act 3 where Baal is revealed
Amazonian: @Zebunisher Eventually, he stopped aging (if you know what I mean)
meisbored: i've only played 3, this will be mostly new to me
BishopSansPants: Don't likr @senseamidstmadness nothing ran in ME
SajuukSjet: Blizzard starting it's Run of OverTheTop Cinematic Productions
Nirvana___: Diablo 2 is a true classic. Fantastic game
TehAmelie: i didn't have a computer at home but i spent maybe $1000 playing this on a cybercafe over a year. and then i got the only job i ever had and spent my paycheck on a computer so i could play it more.
BishopSansPants: *lie
nervousdavid: fun fact the movie that has him jamming the jem into his head was the first thing they made about the game
FarleyF: Also the twist with this guy
sopranocat: I was so excited when I saw this on schedule I actually put it on the calendar so everyone in the house knew I am spoken for
VoidByAnyOtherName: it really does hold up quite well despite the resolution
Koshindan: Diablo 2 runs, but it looks best using some graphical stuff that modern cards don't come with.
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Hotrob_McAwesometon: Oooo! I was never allowed to play this, because it would've made me a satanist apparently
MasterOfArtifice: @FarleyF What was it
goldheartache56: wasnt the soul stone shoved into tal rasha in the second act??
blackwlf: Murdering the devil makes you about as anti-satanist as you can be.
nervousdavid: @goldheartache56 his own stone, and yes
sopranocat: @Hotrob_McAwesometon But you fight demons and angels are good and help you???
RvLeshrac: There are three stones.
ColorBlindDude: whos marius again?
ChiefEngineerMichael: Ah yes. Earlier 2000's creepy character animation
blackwlf: Unless you're doing so to take his place and steal his power.
TehAmelie: when i was in the US i saw a pamphlet warning against this game specifically. . .
RvLeshrac: One for each Prime Evil
lifecharacter: Marius is the witness.
FarleyF: @masterofartifice that's not Tyreal he's taking to - it's Baal
Novus_Spes: That walking-rig. DAMN I love this era of video games.
Amazonian: Gorgeous, gorgeous polygons
SharpCookies: me: this edible ain't shit 2 hr's later:
Hotrob_McAwesometon: I love this eta of animation
Hotrob_McAwesometon: *era
devintownfish: what class did they choose??
Labjer: I vaguely remember being astounded by the cutscenes, and now, seeing them after all these years, it's kind of freaking me a bit out
Hotrob_McAwesometon: they really leaned into the uglyness
MadAran87: So, correct me if I'm wrong - but Marius really was just some poor slob that had the utterly horrid luck of ending up Diablo's travel-companion, right?
VoidByAnyOtherName: so much of the drama comes from the sound and voice acting
sir_jack_DB: dreaminf of the bone zone
Nirvana___: I don't think theyve chosen a class yet
Earthenone: no choicesd have been made yet
flouncy_magooo: Holy shit, 18 years ago I thought these cutscenes were hyperrealistic
Amazonian: :o DRUGS?
Master_Gunner: MadAran87 Yep
dsavillian: woah, this scene takes me wayyyy back
TehAmelie: it took until Warcraft 3 until Blizz started making movies that still hold up. . .
Izandai: drugs?
Lazy_Insomniac: I think I remember the ending cutscene in Diablo 1 was created before the whole rest of the game, and was used because the devs thought it looked cool.
ChiefEngineerMichael: Drugs?
Amazonian: The sound editing is fantastic.
Nirvana___: These cinematics are still pure gold
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SharpCookies: legal drugs, long love Canada
SharpCookies: live*
sopranocat: even 16 years ago I thought this was super tripping
sopranocat: trippy*
zerg539: Canonically The Champion of the first game was the Warrior
Nirvana___: Plus cinematics back then were used sparingly, so they felt special when they came up. Now cinematics are far too common, you barely think about them
Amazonian: You could close your eyes and it would be great
corpocracy: Man, Diablo II is awesome
Nirvana___: These I remember vividly
OriginalGarwulf: There's a GDC talk about Diablo. Apparently the cinematic was done by a different department than Blizzard North, and the devs didn't see it until it was delivered...and somehow, it all just WORKED with the game.
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NathanJay_GA: I don't know if it was mentioned, but for some context, Diablo 2 was released June 29th, 2000
Nigouki: are you guys saying you can't imagine stuff like this in a mobile game?
wicker_knight: yeah this cinematic has more grime and dirt than the entirety of overwatch's universe
Hotrob_McAwesometon: anyone else find the game a tad loud? or is that just me?
SharpCookies: uhhh I am a tad terrified and tripped out
VoidByAnyOtherName: the pacing is amazing too, the ominous dread just keeps building and building until the violent evil climax
wildpeaks: that's a cool cinematic
AmoriLinguae: the game is pretty loud in relation to the gamers
zerg539: Almost Nobody who was Around for Starcraft Diablo 1 and 3 and the regular Warcraft Games are with Blizzard anymore most of them left around the launch of WoW
Koshindan: One of the Butcher's voicelines in D3 is "Vegetables bad, meat good."
Spacecarl: that look at the pipe is so good
Master_Gunner: Diablo II was 2000
Aenir798: Diablo 2 released in 2000
Aenir798: Lord of Destruction was 2001
Tecnocrat: It was 2000, LoD was 2001
reptileviking: Time flies
tenthtechpriest: June 29, 2000
couldntpickausername: I think me and Adam are the same age if it was 2000
Sampy104: “Sir you have to pay for this”
Spacecarl: Always to the East...
sopranocat: Adam is my age? weird
Musicsquid: The Diablo bits in old Commodore Hustle with Adam are some of favorite LRR scenes.
couldntpickausername: Adam is 2 years older than me then
DragonMZ: Diablo 2 cutscenes Kreygasm
brainbosh: Yeah, I played that in college, when the expansion came out in 2001.
Amazonian: PogChamp amazonWowie The title! I'm so excited
dragoon3zero: lol i remember this when it first cam out
SharpCookies: also: I can't believe you guys are playing diablo 2, you must not own phones
Hotrob_McAwesometon: lol
SharpCookies: haw haw topical joke
eSeamus: Glorious 640x480 resolution!
SydPreviouslyHeadache: yeah i actually don't think i ever watched the cutscenes lol
wildpeaks: :D
thraximore: necromancerrrrr
reptileviking: Mine was Sorceress
NotCainNorAbel: When did Cam graduate HS?
ColorBlindDude: no LoD??
wildpeaks: pixels intensify
BusTed: I remember seeing this game on the shelves, not knowing that it was coming out.
Nirvana___: Necromancer is great
Amazonian: @SharpCookies too soon
jakale: never played the diablos, my brother did at our neighbors, but the most I ever saw was the trailer in the warcraft 2 game
BusTed: And snapped it up.
Izandai: I know I'll be outvoted, but I vote paladin.
Nirvana___: Corpse Explosion is busted
sohmageek: This game... I remember highschool.. going to my best friend’s house. Tearing her bed apart to move to the hallway for us to setup a little LAN party.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: Bone necro 4 life
Spacepup: Necromancer was always my favorite. No other game can give me the feeling of the Summonmancer.
SharpCookies: amazon!!
BishopSansPants: Yeah it was
Amazonian: I say Amazon :)
nervousdavid: battle.net for update, if they need it?
Amazonian: I might be biased
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: hello amazonian
ReverseCreations: There's a couple things that were busted until Hell <_< Frozorb times are fun
SharpCookies: @Amazonian :v
Amazonian: Hi GetGoodCHEESECAKE!
sopranocat: Amazon is stronk
eSeamus: @Amazonian I agree. I always play as a bow Amazon.
korvys: Necromancer Randy Orton Pose
Kramburger: So, Hammer pally?
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: How are you today @Amazonian
SharpCookies: wow what is kratos doing here
Lazy_Insomniac: odd flex, but okay
Spacepup: Necro Zoomancer!
Aarek: Hammer paly is best pally
Nirvana___: Necro all day
BloodnBullets: magic magic magic magic
ghostvalv: Lord of Destruction?
karmakamikaze: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 18:58.
sopranocat: Sorceress good for kate game, really hard for early game
electroswagnetism: Zon!
Malkaresh: cheer500 Goddamn guys. Thanks for playing a game that was very formative me as well. I haven't seen that cut scene in years. Time to boot up up gaming pc from 2000...
NathanJay_GA: What will make the best stream?
Amazonian: @GetGoodCHEESECAKE Doign 10/10. Gotta get these dudes on that there Amazon
Himyul: hardcore?
Lazy_Insomniac: Barbarian!
CamelAttack: Team magic!
Khalahd: I have a confession...I've played Path of Exile for 5000+ hours....and that was the first time I've seen the D2 opening. Never got to play it.
TehAmelie: Sorceress will probably let us get the furthest
lifecharacter: Sorceress is the hardest start but the strongest finish.
Amazonian: You know you want that Amazon
couldntpickausername: my favorite merc was act 3 guy wtih freezing
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Amazonian you mean lady mcstabby?
SharpCookies: amazoooooooooon
thraximore: DO iiiit
jakale: it's zip zap on the attack
sopranocat: Ororo
DarknessKingCoH: You going to players8 this?
Earthenone: just dont die :)
Hotrob_McAwesometon: do it!
SharpCookies: That's what I played when I played diablo 11
Amazonian: @GetGoodCHEESECAKE it's me_irl
SharpCookies: 2
lifecharacter: Sorceress is frost fire and lightning.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: however, I got a druid torch so i ended up playing that a lot too
TacitusVigil: The Tall King, Sim
sopranocat: Fire, ice, elec
snowb0und: Those three schools go back to D&D
DoctorOfBeard: diablo 1 had lightning and fire
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Amazonian plz no stabby
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Izandai: "Hello, I am a sorceress, of the name TalkingSim."
SenseAmidstMadness: Quality video programming
Kramburger: Rush to frozen orb?
reptileviking: Yay! Sorceress!
Nigouki: Barb has smash magic and stab magic
TehAmelie: fire is life, ice is death and lightning is the motion between the two
thraximore: It's still solid even nowadays
OriginalGarwulf: In the writer's bible from 2000, the big distinction was between demon and elemental magic. The demonic magic caused a whole bunch of problems, and so there was a change to elemental magic.
Kramburger: God this music
wicker_knight: I love the animation of the chickens here
Izandai: @TehAmelie ...Sure.
Hotrob_McAwesometon: that's some good movement speed. you haul ass compared to some think like dungeon seige
AbnormAnomaly: Coward
pimiento: can't wait for blizz to announce the diablo 2 remake..
sopranocat: Still pretty limited for how the game plays
Koshindan: Wait, which mod?
coelopteryx: the fire/ice/lightning as a trio is.. wow it's in a lot of things. final fantasy, pokemon... (that's all i can think of offhand but still)
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Koshindan path of diablo
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thraximore: yo dungeon siege was my childhood
lilyoswald: Man this is a huge nostalgia hit
wicker_knight: I would argue you are in the tiny minority of listening to this
ReverseCreations: This is making me want to load D2 <_< >_>
BishopSansPants: Man, this actually gives me more nostalgia for Age of Empires II than D2. The movement feels exactly the same.
Beofryn: Hearing this music again is giving me chills
ElektroTal: omg, actual diablo 2? this is so welcome right now
Izandai: This is some surprisingly good VA.
Koshindan: @GetGoodCHEESECAKE Ooh, I was playing a lot of that earlier this month. Maybe we played together.
Amazonian: PoE is fun
Kykiwi: yea it is
Hotrob_McAwesometon: mine too @thraximore . just running around the world with a posse wrecking face
Amazonian: And free, which is a good selling point
jakale: did he say rogue monastary?
sopranocat: I love the voice acting in this
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Koshindan he tells his discord when he plays it
Despoiler98: EEeeeeevil
Kraest: Heeeeeey errybody! lrrAWESOME
Zapplee: alkDMCA
Khalahd: PoE is my actual favorite game ever. <3
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Amazonian adam also plays PoE
shinumei: call of cthulhu tomorrow? @LoadingReadyRun kevduitZombie
IamRileyPM: daaaaamn Adams pulling the long hours! lol Hey Adam, Hey Cam, Hey Chat.
nervousdavid: did anyone play this with a larger UI?
pimiento: the dark wanderer started causing trouble in your neighbourhood?
dsavillian: resolution? was that in the xpac?
wicker_knight: it's under options
lilyoswald: The sorceress was my first diablo II character, significant personally because it was my first step toward female presentation. Games were a great place to start for that.
ElektroTal: the music of this game is just fucking fantastic.
Master_Gunner: the expansion added a second resolution
dsavillian: I don't remember ever changing the resolution in the original game
SixthMonarch: oooo diablo 2
lilyoswald: Presenting female in game when I couldn't IRL
MaidenOfCyn: resolution is only in the expac iirc
Kraest: I played this game for about 20 minutes when I was like...14? 16 years ago sounds about right. lol
Izandai: There really is no excuse for any modern game not having subtitles, is there?
eSeamus: Resolution is 640x480. The expansion added 800x600.
DoctorOfBeard: yeah the xpack has the higher res
wicker_knight: oh
ElektroTal: diablo 1 was 640x480 fixed.
ChiefEngineerMichael: @shinumei Yes! Was confirmed during One More...?
RvLeshrac: The music in Diablo was just off the cuff noodling, I think the Diablo 2 music was similarly created.
ElektroTal: also the best thing about d2 was adding the ability to run
sopranocat: YEAH
inventivematter: Hyello all
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: this part was also cool each class seemed to have a special intro with a character in the opening town
corpocracy: It's raining! I forgot about the weather
OriginalGarwulf: I'd like to draw attention to the interface here - it is extremely streamlined (as is Diablo 1). If you click on a character or monster, it does the appropriate thing (talking, fighting, bartering, etc.). And what this does is make everything immediate - the only barrier between the player and the character taking an action is a single click at any time.
SixthMonarch: its like path of exile .5 :)
johothehobo: Chat, where do i find the skit with the caped monks singing "knife kill from across the mat is pretty damn coo"
ElektroTal: diablo 2's act 2 palace song samples a hindu hymn from an engima song
TehAmelie: did you know running makes your armor 0 though?
QuietMyth: Adam Simulator PogChamp PogChamp PogChamp
thraximore: really?
Despoiler98: I loved my Necromancer in D2 played it FOREVER
TehAmelie: it's bugged as heck, but not as bugged as walking
Cofibrant: You can't block while running, right?
Nigouki: "for all time"? that's a looooong promise
couldntpickausername: @LoadingReadyRun I'm already rewatching EVA because of desert bus, if this ends with me installing diablo 2....
TehAmelie: no you can block, but otherwise everything hits
aWabbajack: Stay awhile an listen!
electroswagnetism: A cool thing in this game is that acts 1, 2, and 4 are basically about killing the main characters of diablo 1 (rogue, wizard, and warrior)
TacitusVigil: @couldntpickausername You should just start installing it now. ;)
sopranocat: D2 was hte game that convinced me to try classes that use minions ie necromancers, druids, engineers, etc
Despoiler98: Is she talking about Sauron?
Amazonian: #StayAwhileAndListen
TacitusVigil: Sauron is the lidless eye, not the sightless eye. ;)
RvLeshrac: couldntpickausername: Just make sure you get the patched one.
wildpeaks: a sequel that improved on the original
aWabbajack: #StayAwhileAndListen indeed!
Amazonian: Blizzard is known for doing stuff right, even if they aren't particularly groundbreaking game-types
wicker_knight: yeah, Blizzard doesn't re-invent the wheel. They polish it until you don't feel gravel when you drive over
Koshindan: Synergies were after the expansion. Starting in 1.10.
Rivulatus_: Got stuck, and wan't able to get here in time. but Yay for Diablo 2, I spent a lot of Nights playing this with friends at LAN's
zerg539: @johothehobo it was in a ENN back in the day it does pop up again during the Anniversary stream you can see the VOD of on Youtube
Amazonian: With the exception ofa certain upcoming mobile game
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DoctorOfBeard: synergies was a later patch right?
Amazonian: PogChamp thank you aWabbajack!!
ChiefEngineerMichael: I love to see Adam geeking out over this! It's really awesome!
Zapplee: alkG
silenceaux: Also, rewards you for staying On Theme
RvLeshrac: If you own Diablo 2/LOD, I think you can still register your key on B.Net
aWabbajack: lrrAWESOME spethGood
johothehobo: ty very much @zerg539
couldntpickausername: can we talk about the font? and the 5 looking like a 6
Amazonian: @Zapplee (puke)
Zapplee: 😡
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @aWabbajack you beat me to it
ElektroTal: i wrote an entire high school essay in the diablo font once
electroswagnetism: Shame about the energy stat though
Zapplee: 😡 👉 🚪 @Amazonian
ElektroTal: my teacher was not amused
TehAmelie: also funny, they invented spell cooldowns here because several patches in they noticed the game lagged when you spammed fire walls everywhere
sopranocat: I don't think I ever got the fiery death shrine
Lazy_Insomniac: Rakkanishu!
TurboEmily: Diablo II: Electric boogaloo
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: Rakkanishu
sir_jack_DB: game loud
Lazy_Insomniac: Diablo II: Rakkanishu
Despoiler98: Games a little too loud for your conversation
cheetoJack: game very loud, can barely hear Cam over the mobs dying
hoktauri: it's hard to hear you over the game effect sounds
ElektroTal: the game efex are louder than cam
The_Ocean_who_Subbed: hey, it's really hard to hear y'all talk over the fireball, can you turn it down?
pimiento: game's a bit loud
MasterOfArtifice: @LoadingReadyRun The fireball makes it hard to hear you
Spacecarl: the game is a bit loud perhaps with the fireballs and yelling
sopranocat: Sound effects too loud
The_RavelordNito: volume needs to be fixed. i can't hear cam
Haganedragon: cant hear cam over spells
ColorBlindDude: yeah game too loud guys
Izandai: You missed some gold.
Zyme86: game volume overrunning you when adam cast spells
snowb0und: Can you turn down game audio a bit? The shouts are a bit loud over the discourse
MostCallMe__Tim: modify volume of game
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Lazy_Insomniac they reference rakanishu in diablo three
The_Ocean_who_Subbed: and now that's enough on the volume comments
TehAmelie: noice
Despoiler98: RAKKANEETYOU
pimiento: thanks!
pimiento: rakanishu! bishibosh!
Durugai: I mean.. I guess if you play Hardcore :P
Izandai: They wanted to make a game like Rogue?
couldntpickausername: @The_Ocean_who_Subbed heightxwidthxdepth
eSeamus: I love the fact that you hear these early enemies yelling Rakanishu, then you encounter Rakanishu later. So cool.
OriginalGarwulf: The fallen have a nice decision tree - you can actually see them thinking "We can kill this guy - oh shit he killed one of us RUN - regroup, we can kill this guy..."
Lazy_Insomniac: @GetGoodCHEESECAKE oh I know, I've played 3 and gotten that encounter :)
Despoiler98: I......am dubious about that Den
The_Ocean_who_Subbed: lol couldntpickausername
SharpCookies: find cave, kill monsters, get loot, yeeee
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Lazy_Insomniac isnt it great and super nostalgic?
TurboEmily: Diablo II: Electric Rakanishu!
wicker_knight: this partially clear automap is something that I do wish would come back
wildpeaks: subtle hints to guide the player is an art
SharpCookies: das a beating stick
Spacecarl: Ah, when it's time for the sorceress to wade in and hit shit
RvLeshrac: The Loots
Despoiler98: the map is SO good in this game
silenceaux: I'd rather have a game start thinking me an idiot than a genius... I think. Maybe.
InstaG1bbon: Warframe uses the diablo-style full-screen map. It's so good for games with a lot going on
wildpeaks: Left 4 Dead had a lot of great examples, like car lights to highlight a path
SharpCookies: the map really confused me when I initially started
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couldntpickausername is not a fan of permadeath
SharpCookies: I'd get myself lost despite it
ElektroTal: that replayability is exactly it
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: youre great too @andrew
Lazy_Insomniac: @GetGoodCHEESECAKE Definitely. The first time I played D2 was about 6 years ago when a friend suggested we have a LAN party and play together. Good times.
TehAmelie: i am a fan. and in this game you can have it both ways!
pimiento: diablo was also turn based until real late in development
SajuukSjet: the late 90s had a thing for the HUD map
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: @Lazy_Insomniac i did that with my friend too
TehAmelie: i blame Doom
SajuukSjet recalls the Dark Forces games maps
SMS1080: battlenet was a huge milestone for multiplayer
QuietMyth: To Cam, Dark Souls is one big years-long roguelike, start to bell gargoyles Kappa
Durugai: Multiplayer that works sure was a rarity in those days
Despoiler98: oh yeah BNet was my first multiplayer experience on the net and not a LAN
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TimWinGame: This is really making me want to get out the Pentium 3 and boot up some Win 98
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Rivulatus_: Yea, I spent a lof of nights at LAN's playing D2
couldntpickausername: remember the spawn? when one copy of starcaft let you lan 8 players
Nigouki: MOOOOOOOOOOM!!! PUT THE PHONE DOWN I"M PLAYING
Despoiler98: hang up the PHONE BRO
OriginalGarwulf: Diablo and Diablo II were actually the games that proved the concept of internet multiplayer. In all seriousness, one of the reasons we have the multiplayer of today is because these games proved it would work and people would do it.
Kramburger: I still remember the PVP servers all being called pkpkpkpk and people not leaving town so they couldn't die
wildpeaks: and you'd always end up using wayy more time than the subscription :D
Mashamino: oh yeah, BNet was a hugely important part of my childhood
AGiantRoach: this game DEFINED my adolescence. I remember having to play after my parents went to bed so I wouldn't tie up our phone connection
sopranocat: lord, I can still make the dial-up noises
MalBeam: dial up to go on battlenet was formative for online gaming
Tecnocrat: I actually still have rogue here on my big gaming rig, and will play it from time to time. I have my original 5 1/4" disk of it from Epyx in a box on my desk.
TehAmelie: remember Kali? :3
couldntpickausername: I remember being at a local con and trading the set of apocalypse for the diablo 2 battlechest
Driosenth: Others will observe us gesticulating from grand elevations. "Descend immediately" they proclaim. But all appears flawless from distant views. "Descend immediately", but we are stationary. The Postal Service - "Such Great Heights"
sir_jack_DB: samsquanch
thedepthandbreadthofseth: is this really what this game used to look like???
thraximore: lmao strength sorceress?
silenceaux: Quote 36 putting in work today
TehAmelie: we're not going to have time to farm strength charms to wear basic armor i guess
thedepthandbreadthofseth: I remember this game being so realistice
Despoiler98: hurray
Despoiler98: lrrWOW
wicker_knight: I also love the dorky little hat
sopranocat: This was the first game that told me out loud when I needed MP or HP, which was SO helpful for me becuase I'd get hyperfocused on mobs and not know why attacks weren't working and then die
Spacecarl: What build ya thinking of going for the stream?
Durugai: I wish PoE's voice lines didn't stop after act 4...
wicker_knight: I was always torn about it because you cover the character base costume, but it's definitely missed in other games
pimiento: there'sa great oral history article with the blizzard north guys on usgamer: https://www.usgamer.net/articles/in-their-own-words-an-oral-history-of-diablo-ii-with-david-brevik-max-schaefer-and-erich-schaefer
TehAmelie: the secret is making "all" the items look good
wicker_knight: even more than going back, it allowed you to go forward
wildpeaks: solutions still used today
RvLeshrac: thedepthandbreadthofseth: 800x600 is as high as it goes, doesn't look great in fullscreen.
cognificent: @Durugai they've voice acted each new league, and I suspect the whole game is being re-acted for 4.0 next year
thedepthandbreadthofseth: @LoadingReadyRun cameron, I know it's not what the show is about, but would you care to share why you prefer the term "partner" for your SO?
Kramburger: Having the tomes so that your inventory wasn't 25% by volume was great
wildpeaks: it has more depth than I expected
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aWabbajack: 1999
Durugai: cognificent oh, no, I know, they are doing the most voice work ever due to the new leagues, but I wish they had added those small voice lines with 3.0 and the new acts
TehAmelie: the resolution is beginning to look claustrophobic, or maybe it's just me?
TacitusVigil: Oh right, Half Life. They ever finish that trilogy? lrrBEEJ
aWabbajack: good ole dial up mmo days
sopranocat: sands of time was 2003
Amazonian: TacitusVigil :(
hoktauri: @TacitusVigil the trilogy of never finished trilogies
wildpeaks: TacitusVigil yup, and the space aliens won, the end :D
Leafwind104: Wasn't original Starcraft '98?
SajuukSjet: 98-02 was a golden time
GetGoodCHEESECAKE: bishbos!!!!
HaanZzz: Yeah, the fact you can stack adrenaline potions took me years to figure out :D
Amazonian: Half Life 3, Portal 3, or Team Fortress 3 - which wil l happen first?
BrindleBoar: Bishbosh will be there for you. A true friend.
tenthtechpriest: 200 was also the year of deus ex, majora's mask, dead or alive 2,quake 3 arena, and shenmue
ElementalAlchemist: Half-Life: "We'll make 3 ga--oh. OK, we'll break it up and make three episod--oh."
TacitusVigil: @Amazonian I'm pretty sure that Portal Bridge Builder is Portal III lrrBEEJ
CamelAttack: @Amazonian None of them. Valve doesn't make video games anymore.
OriginalGarwulf: Around 1991 to 2002 is what I like to call a "Golden Age" for computer games. The medium was just on the cusp of becoming big business (million dollar game budgets, etc.), and so you saw a lot of wild creativity because the barrier to entry was still fairly low.
RealGamerCow: Yardsale is a skiing term too, right?
aWabbajack: Artifact 2 will come out first
TehAmelie: i still think it's pretty radical to have a super-resurrecter boss who resurrects the guys who resurrects the little guys
DoodlestheGreat: Monty Hall time.
tenthtechpriest: oh and phantasy star online (japan release; na/eu in 2001)
TacitusVigil: But yeah, unfortunately, what @CamelAttack said. :(
Amazonian: @CamelAttack Artifact doesn't count as a game because it's not-good.
Kraest: I never got more than a few minutes into this game almost two decades ago but holy crap, I had no idea that Path of Exile was just a pretty version of this game. XD
thedepthandbreadthofseth: adam, the amount of stuff your leaving on the ground is really screwing with my OCD...
wicker_knight: Isn't Path of Exile literally by a bunch of the same team, same as Torchlight
Phothrism: It's a great game
aWabbajack: also glad I scooped up the Steam Link last year for 5 bucks
geldaran: So, coming into this late... I was just sitting down to play Path of Exile... I played the crap outta DII way back when and it's amazing to see just how much they are alike.
sopranocat: @thedepthandbreadthofseth I know, right? Loot is precious!
ElektroTal: in diablo 1, there was a thing my friends would do to each other. we'd go down to hell to fight diablo, and then while in the fight, send an icq message to our friend. the entire screen would minimize to say YOU HAVE A MESSAGE (this was version 1.0) and by the time he frantically clicked back in, his character would be dead on the floor of hell and the other players would have taken his stuff and bailed
QuietMyth: Diablo 2 better than fallout 76 :thinking:
TacitusVigil: @aWabbajack $5? Holy crap!
ElektroTal: and the dead dude would have to hike all the way back to his body. We'd give it back in the next game =)
Spacecarl: and you get mopre slots from better belts!
wildpeaks: Dishonored still uses mana potions too (except in DotO)
Durugai: Praise PoE flasks
aWabbajack: did I overpay?
wildpeaks: a way to prevent just spamming a single thing over and over
TacitusVigil: I mean, seems like a good deal?
reptileviking: Wizards suck until lvl3!
Kramburger: Playing Baulders Gate 2 and sleeping 6 times in the first dungeon
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aWabbajack: oh yeah it was like 30 so pretty good, it may be double or triple it's price because of the rarity
TacitusVigil: Yeah.
BusTed: The topping is also cursed.
Spacecarl: and manually picking up gold is a thing I don't miss
DoodlestheGreat: @quietmyth, eating geound glass is better than Fallout 76...
sopranocat: Hey at least wizards can do something, bards when I tried D&D could do one thing: sing to add a +1 for other people
ArcOfTheConclave: be cleansed in fire!
aWabbajack: let's see if I can check my purchase history
Master_Gunner: that timing
lifecharacter: Time to kill a hero.
DoctorOfBeard: this first act has roads everywhere
QuietMyth: Blood raven is the archer from Diablo 1 correct?
LiveFaust: Didn't see if anybody mentioned, but being able to act WHILE menus are open? That's still a problem in a lot of games.
couldntpickausername: I really don't understand people that don't like fast travel in games
aWabbajack: @TacitusVigil I was off: 13.99 I paid
TacitusVigil: Still, good deal I'd say.
DoctorOfBeard: be nice to the skeletons Adam
aWabbajack: Subtotal $49.99 Discount -$45.00 ( -90%)
silenceaux: Also, you're not going to miss that it's a special enemy / the boss, because she has a voice line.
thedepthandbreadthofseth: butcher was always a self heal check in diablo 1
aWabbajack: I like how the necro says "good bye" to Blood Raven
Kramburger: I remember Wil Wheaton talking about one of his sons wearing a groove in a chipboard desk playing this game
couldntpickausername nominates castle of the winds for talking sim
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aWabbajack: his outlook on things is great too
Dedwrekka: FYI I remember Andariel's character model being especially NSFW
QuietMyth: That is right, right chat? Blood Raven is the archer from D1?
lifecharacter: Yes.
aWabbajack: ooh did not know, *the more you know chime*
BusTed: womp womp
Phothrism: F
TehAmelie: Blood Raven was always a little too hard for the level you get to just on the way. even with /players8
lifecharacter: Blood Raven, The Summoner, and Diablo are the heroes from Diablo I.
tenthtechpriest: you have this long laborious fight. then you die and have to do it all over again
aWabbajack: slytqRIP
OriginalGarwulf: There's a thematic thing happening here. The first game was very much about corruption. This game is about redemption, and so you are encountering the corrupted and making them go away. And, this leads into the endgame in which the player character wins (as opposed to the first game, in which your victory is immediately turned into a defeat).
lifecharacter: And, if it's too risky to actually get your stuff back, you can quit out and have it spawn back in town.
QuietMyth: Stamina bar PogChamp
ZcottD: visually this hasnt aged well lol
aWabbajack: i remember sharing gold with party members when you died
Phothrism: So is the stamina system doing anything useful here?
Phothrism: Or is it just there to be annoying
TehAmelie: very little things: your stamina only begins to regenerate if you stand still after it runs out
aWabbajack: by sharing, i mean they looted the gold off the ground
lifecharacter: Stamina keeps you from running around too much in fights.
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Kramburger: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
wildpeaks: are we the highlander now ? :D
aWabbajack: lrrHORN
zerg539: You were running this on a Computer that had like 1% of the total computing power of your phone
couldntpickausername: and it reequips everything
SydPreviouslyHeadache: i keep forgetting to ask this but what is a pog?
couldntpickausername: it's so nice
aWabbajack: old twitch meme
wildpeaks: the re-equip is a nice touch
aWabbajack: I think @SydPreviouslyHeadache
Phothrism: @lifecharacter hmm that makes sense
SydPreviouslyHeadache: OH like the source for Poggers?
OriginalGarwulf: The way this game trusts the player to create their own experience is very similar to Dark Souls.
silenceaux: The placement of the Blood Raven, plus that the fight makes you run around everywhere, ensures that you've bumped into something interesting by now.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Whats funny is, this is how I remember Diablo, and Diablo 2 is better through my nostalgia
wildpeaks: starting to run out of inventory space too
SydPreviouslyHeadache: PogChamp *
silenceaux: That's a lot of lines of text
zerg539: Diablo 2 system requirements which were asking a lot back in the day 233 MHz Pentium or better 32 MB RAM 650 MB drive space
Koshindan: You're right.
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pimiento: you're right
theinvisiblevoice: gold items like grizwald's edge
ElektroTal: diablo 1 had blue items and legendary items
QuietMyth: I played Diablo 1 all the way through in one sitting last year, my wrist was not happy with me
wildpeaks: UwU yellow item
SydPreviouslyHeadache: I still don't know what that means but i'm glad to have context
silenceaux: And you're just all OwO
Markster981: UwU
Koshindan: There weren't sets in the first game.
ElektroTal: the legendary items were golden. stuff like gnarled root
ShackledRage: I ended up getting a year behind in school because of D2
DoctorOfBeard: and rare items were coloured in every game from here on in
ElektroTal: but the real power was in the blues. Godly Plate of Whale, Archangel's Staff of the Apocalypse
TehAmelie: what's funny is in this game rare items are the ones that are actually unique
ArcOfTheConclave: A threshold?
lifecharacter: Legendary Items were the most exciting because the color wasn't that distinct from rares, but the item actually looked different when identified.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: OH I really fucked up
BusTed: Starting to see the numbers floating through the air.
BrindleBoar: D1 had a tiny number of unique items, and most were quest rewards - useful when they dropped but never the pinnacle of usefulness
sopranocat: I remember in college I knew someone who had a computer with a stack of like 6 hard drives of 600 MB each and everyone just wondered how he had money to eat
brainbosh: Diablo 2 was my introduction to all of the medieval weapons
Scrubbodiestobears: people who play diablo know an inordinate number of ways to say "long stick with sharp metal at the end"
QuietMyth: God rolls in Destiny 2 are real
xantos69: Everyone LOVES to win the lottery.
ShackledRage: Perfect rolled items were worth a lot
Leafwind104: "bardice"
wicker_knight: I do feel that Diablo 2 and D&D have actually been kind of a pain for medieval weapons by making the taxonomy way more precise sounding than it actualyl was
theinvisiblevoice: my favorite addition do diablo 2 was when they patched in the /set players x command
silenceaux: That's a very strong social incentive too. Get friends, play different characters, my axe for your spear.
brainbosh: I ended up running a Necromancer with a crossbow for a long time because I got the gold one.
pimiento: yea players 8 is fun
zerg539: Inventory is everyone's biggest gripe with D2
Fruan: I do NOT miss inventory tetris
theinvisiblevoice: start new character, /set players 8, spend minutes killing the first zombie
sopranocat: This is what scrolls are for
ArcOfTheConclave: yardsale!
Laserbeaks_Fury: My fondest memory was a brief period when Amazons could get 100% Chance to Pierce and you would just melt Baal with Guided Arrows
Earthenone: remeber charms in LOD
TehAmelie: Scepter is likely worth a lot of gold btw
AGiantRoach: my friend played barb and I played Necro and we constantly traded items we found on our own but couldn't use. it made finding loot I couldn't use exciting.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: inventory tetris was weird, i disliked it but i had fun with it? if that makes sense
Scrubbodiestobears: "ooh! a piece of candy!"
Durugai: uh piece of candy!
Earthenone: paladins knew
Master_Gunner: inventory tetris gave me a satisfaction. Or frustration.
BrindleBoar: I don't think anyone's supposed to like inventory management, but I do think that it's D2's key nod to realism - if you want to wander forever, you have to set really high standards for loot
tenthtechpriest: the infancy of gamefaqs
pimiento: there is still diabloii.net
Morrigan9: brady's guides
Laserbeaks_Fury: And then you learned exactly how bad "Lightning Enchanted" could get
CobaltShurikenReborn: owo whats that loot
SajuukSjet: GameFaqs
ReverseCreations: Lightning enchanted is the sort of worst.
OriginalGarwulf: Bit of trivia: Diabloii.net was where my Garwufl's Corner column was back in the day.
wicker_knight: oh, speaking of guides. The Diablo 2 guidebook was a TOME and it was actually straight up wrong in several places :D
AGiantRoach: Oh man I miss Nintendo Power
thedepthandbreadthofseth: ultima V was where it was at
QuietMyth: the golden age of vidya gaems
TehAmelie: i remember reading obsessively about Diablo 2 cause library computers were free
r10pez10: magazine subscriptions!
Laserbeaks_Fury: Lightning Enchanted was busted bad and I pretty much skipped any mob that had it
Master_Gunner: Oh I have the guidebook around here somewhere still
GlennSeto: Oh yeah, Nintendo Power guides and maps were the shit.
Phothrism: wow, it's weird not having all the information of the world on your fingertips
lifecharacter: Strategy Guides?
Phothrism: would not want to experience
SajuukSjet: Prima Strategy Guides?
mtvcdm: Even the magazine had some guides for some really obscure stuff.
SMS1080: information was scarce and valuable before the internet. we traded game secrets as almost a currency
BrindleBoar: Strategy guides were usually wrong, even after Prima started building relationships with devs and getting their assistance with them
QuietMyth: Did any of the FFVI guides explain how Sketch was broken? Kappa
NotCainNorAbel: Nintendo Power was great. Still have my pin (just found it a few months ago)
ThePov42: I remember Beating Kingdom Hearts with the guide in the back of GameInformer. I think that would have been the very tail end of that process
mtvcdm: Gold Medal Challenge '92 was the type of game that would get a profile in Nintendo Power.
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Malkaresh: I have the Final Fantasy 3 strat guide. I was using it to help Matt like a year ago?
BrindleBoar: well, not usually, but virtually always had errors, is what I meant
AGiantRoach: I actually remember how bad the guide for FF9 was. It made you look at the website for so much. in those days that was super annoying.
Master_Gunner: I never really played D2 modded... I have to install D2 again.
Koshindan: LoD
Durugai: aren't charms LoD?
AGiantRoach: yeah LoD
Master_Gunner: Pretty sure Charms are the expansion
pimiento: charms are in LoD, yes
DoctorOfBeard: they are expansion items
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margieargie: For me, the guides were less useful for the game info itself than for all the weird side stuff they might have, like Sim City 2000s talking about actual economic theory and cellular automata and such.
insane_42: @LoadingReadyRun Cam, have you see the GDC post mortem on Diablo? I found it facinating.
ujai321: the names of the rare mobs are insane
Sordidambition: Or better yet, if your companion could use it!
tenthtechpriest: sitting in ventrillo. playing dota.
Durugai: god voice chat data at that time... oof
CleverCrumbish: Would you say it in person? Was this game LANable, or faux-LANable?
SajuukSjet: I don't think the voice codecs were there yet :D
Nirvana___: Adam, do you have any specific mods you would recommend for someone who may or may not be reinstalling D2 as we speak?
carsonthekid: Diablo 2 has me play a necromancer in whenever a new Game or Dnd comes out when possible
blast__femur: path of diablo!
Phothrism: hmm, interesting enough in 5e the loop of loot/go back to town isn't really there
ZcottD: LoD was a brilliant expansion
DoctorOfBeard: path of diablo, lord of exile?
AGiantRoach: yeah summoner druid was fun but not great
silenceaux: There was no agg- er, stat point reset.
Zalbaag: That respec is a one time shot
TehAmelie: hands up who ruined a character by accidentally clicking on Blessed Aim or something and started over
Durugai: much like Torchlight... Encouraging players to not spend their shiny points on level up is just bad
Koshindan: Mercs weren't customizable in D2.
Lanthess: O I think
DoctorOfBeard: companion buttion is an expack thing
Koshindan: Also you can't keep them between acts.
sir_jack_DB: you can drag and drop potions onto them :P
Koshindan: I think you can't res that certain merc too, but I might be wrong on that.
Scrubbodiestobears: i didn't even realize that it was possible to play vanilla diablo 2 still lol
GlennSeto: Oh yeah, I'm gonna out myself as a filthy casual, but I prefer the D3 system, where you can just swap wily-nily between different spell loadouts.
wildpeaks: mecanically sounds a lot like the old Fallout games
couldntpickausername: I don't really blame act 3 companions for not wanting to follow you into hell
TehAmelie: you can tell minions and mercs are overpowered because act bosses do 10x damage to them
couldntpickausername: the identify scrolls always seemed weird, I mean you get free identify in a bit
GlennSeto: Anxiety and ADHD do not play well with permanent build choices.
Koshindan: I'm still learning things about D2. Just this month I learned that you can "auto-attack run" by holding down an attack on the right mouse button.
DoctorOfBeard: 'small'
wicker_knight: yeah. I had a ...bowazon I think... where I got a bunch of Rare equipment for a melee class where my merc was more powerful than me basically
AGiantRoach: LoD took it to a new level
Master_Gunner: Nah, I'm going to call LoD perfect.
Master_Gunner: Fite Me.
eSeamus: The expansion made the game what everyone compares Diablo III to.
ArcOfTheConclave: 9.5/10
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Clan_Dookie: this game gave me carpel tunnel
Rhynerd: Fate being one
couldntpickausername: throne of darkness was a good diablo clone
Clan_Dookie: its how i spend my entire middle school and half of highschool until wow came out
ZcottD: nothing really compared to D2 till PoE came out, for me
Rhynerd: Anyone else play Fate here?
ninja_theory_ashrams: it's good, but it's no tetris
Clan_Dookie: omg that gem sound
Earthenone: perfect is not the word i would use, maybe quintessential ?
pimiento: gharbad!
AGiantRoach: that gem noise
r10pez10: healthy!
Clan_Dookie: can you just drop that gem on the ground a few times adam
ujai321: sin skin... great name
Phothrism: perfect in execution, even if not in taste?
theinvisiblevoice: oh, the blue goblin rare that's lightning enchanted >.>
AGiantRoach: rakinishu!
lifecharacter: Oh god lightning bosses. The bane of all life.
hoktauri: merc got merked
pimiento: rakanishu!
DoctorOfBeard: lightning enchanted... urg
wildpeaks: it does what it aimed to do
Durugai: genre defining?
ninja_theory_ashrams: it's a distilled essence
Zyme86: The herraldric cube of holding
pimiento: they did at least double the stash size in the expac
Earthenone: they gave you more stash space to help out in expansion
AGiantRoach: torchlight added the pet to sell loot for you which was cool
wildpeaks: respec also lets you experiment with other styles without much risk to the character
pimiento: i did super appreciate in torchlight you could send your companion aminal back to town to handle the capitalism
Durugai: Earthenone though that does not solve "how quickly inventory fills up"
RealGamerCow: Cameron, your handwriting on that checklist is magnificent, btw.
CrookedSmile: i did not really like respec
ReverseCreations: Still certain that dog was taking a decent cut on sales.
TheMerricat: night chat. have to go find food and sleep.
Kramburger: Yeah, I want to pay Cam to write all my lists
TacitusVigil: Pistachio the Productivity Bear would be proud :D
tenthtechpriest: cameron's handwriting makes me feel shame every time I see it
pimiento: ReverseCreations : i've no doubt, but hey.. that's capitalism!
Durugai: Torchlight letting your pet head back to town for you to sell/get points was real good
thraximore: best part of torchlight probably
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silenceaux: Repeating things an awful lot until you get it right, sounds like work.
Durugai: thraximore probably, not a massive fan of a lot of other things in those games tbh :P but hey, where credit is due and all
Rhynerd: I did cursive and print in elementary school
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Gekyouryuu: I learned cursive in Elementary school because I went to a Catholic school.
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thraximore: what were some of the weaker points? I never finished it
tenthtechpriest: part of me likes that writing is cursive is basically writing in code for kids nowadays
Scrubbodiestobears: Halls of the Blind is so good
pimiento: cursive dropped out of the curriculum just as my school year would have gotten to it.. so that was nice. also my handwriting is awful
Gekyouryuu: I've continued using cursive to this day.
NotCainNorAbel: Taking computer typing classes; ahhh memories
Rhynerd: I ended up relearning cursive during high school
Amentur: I learned cursive and in high school was sked to stop writing it since my new teachers couldn't read it :|
Gekyouryuu: my handwriting has not improved and my cursive looks like toilets. >.>
Zyme86: I can see what you see not— Vision milky, then eyes rot. When you turn, they will be gone, Whispering their hidden song. Then you see what cannot be— Shadows move where light should be. Out of darkness, out of mind, Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.
Rhynerd: my handwriting is still a giant mess
Kramburger: There's that vally with like 7 dungeons in Act II
AGiantRoach: as a kid handwriting was the first "class" i got anything besides an "A"
snowb0und: Question: There's consensus that WoW Classic is going to be a revanchist aberration, obsolesced by more than a decade of improvements. Is Diablo II worth similar re-evaluation in light of Diablo III?
Rhynerd: learning cursive just means I write sloppily and faster
Earthenone: i love the countess side quest
Koshindan: I think the act 3 tome just drops.
Rhynerd: and in a way some people can read less of
Laserbeaks_Fury: Oh hey, it's Grandpa Max
CrookedSmile: diablo 3 dialogue makes me cry with sadness
tenthtechpriest: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
Dedwrekka: That's just the Elizabeth Bathory story
Zyme86: Adam the riddle you were talking about: I can see what you see not— Vision milky, then eyes rot. When you turn, they will be gone, Whispering their hidden song. Then you see what cannot be— Shadows move where light should be. Out of darkness, out of mind, Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.
Gekyouryuu: I also had classes to learn computer typing.... and it never worked, so I just type everything with both of my pointer fingers. I am not efficient
Koshindan: Oh, there's a tome in act 5 with the ancients.
Master_Gunner: Act III was the worst for directions for me
Master_Gunner: Act II I enjoyed
thraximore: act 3 is a nightmare
Scrubbodiestobears: i feel like Act 2 is intentionally muddled though
Durugai: act 2 has a very big "being lost in a massive desert" sub-theme going on
Earthenone: act 3 was where i got lost when i was younger
CrookedSmile: too much backtracking in act 3
Laserbeaks_Fury: Fun Fact: The Narrator is the same voice actor as the Vault-Tec rep from Fallout 4
Spacecarl: Paul died!?
Zyme86: To me its act III, those Fetishes can rot in hell
Scrubbodiestobears: Act 2 wants you to feel like you're lost in a massive desert
silenceaux: I feel like it is so so so important to set people up on clear paths at the beginning of your game. Maybe you can be obtuse later, but not at step one.
pimiento: i don't hate act 2, but there's a lot of sand... it's coarse and gritty and it gets everywhere.
lifecharacter: Act 2, home of lightning beetles.
ReverseCreations: Act 3 is a literal nightmare, those little fetsh bastards sucked.
Koshindan: Act 2 was two straight lines. Act 3 could literally skip the second area if you rolled a weird map.
TehAmelie: one funny thing is the second half of act 1 has these like 10 areas that are all the same, which is very nice for modders who can use them as canvases
thraximore: uuugh lightning beetles
couldntpickausername: act 2 is the mummy
couldntpickausername: act 3 is the mummy returns
CrookedSmile: fetishes oof, rip so many hc characters
couldntpickausername: it even has the undead pigmies
Lazy_Insomniac: @Spacecarl which Paul?
Spacecarl: he said paul was rolling over in his grave
Elspeth_Tirel: Act 3 has naked CGI The Rock?
ReverseCreations: Fetishes were less bad when Frozen Orb was acquired, fuck those little things.
wicker_knight: I'd say immunities are fine as long as you have a way to get around them
couldntpickausername: oh god I remember dnd 3.5 carrying 5 different swords because of immunities
PigmyWurm: it shouldn't be in a game where magic useers are suposed to focus on one spell
GlennSeto: Same, same.
Havok4: i had that same experience playing path of exile, got to the last boss and my build just got invalidated.
AGiantRoach: yeah the game encourages specialization and then punishes you for doing so
wicker_knight: but yeah, it's entirely possible to run into immunities that completely destroy your ability to hurt things
ReverseCreations: nothing fun like Physical immunity in Hell as barb.
ArcOfTheConclave: resistances are interesting, immunities are stupid.
Earthenone: yes.... i remeber nightmare/hell cold immune mods
Spacepup: I like playing a Necromancer with such powerful debuffs, that you can even kill immune monsters.
Scrubbodiestobears: in Hell isn't everything immune to *somethign*?
thraximore: its on point to hate hell lol
Koshindan: Diablo 2 Resurgence is a good mod that removes immunities except in the very highest difficulty added areas.
TehAmelie: i mean Barbarians have one skill that does anything other than physical damage, so you need to invest in that one, if only to get its synergies for the skills you like
w1nsol: Games don't reward you for building Jack-of-all trade type builds. they reward you for specification. so punishing you for doing that fells really bad.
MaidenOfCyn: I stopped playing my sorceress when I got to hell difficulty. I was forzen orb only. and got punshed super hard
Spacecarl: Also the loop of beating the game each time for more difficulties is a bit aged these days.
wicker_knight: stat up only to get equipment, then VIT
wildpeaks: !findquote VIT
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thejuggernate: I always wanted to run around in this game with a bunch of friends all rolling paladins with a different aura
TehAmelie: the magic number is 84 Str. (spoilers)
xantos69: cheer50 I mean...if you as a game designer feel that immunity is for you, then instead just make it 90% damage reduction for that damage type. Then players feel "smart" for not using that damage instead of feeling punished for their build.
Kramburger: Wait, strength didn't impact spell damage?
Master_Gunner: Oh. I never knew that.
mtvcdm: More VIT!
Durugai: potions and gear
AbnormAnomaly: So many of my running away deaths make sense now.
CrookedSmile: mana shield LOL
TehAmelie: it took the Median mod to make even Energy increase spell damage
GlennSeto: XD
Scrubbodiestobears: and Warmth!
BrindleBoar: you need enough energy to cast your favorite spell twice - that's it
HaanZzz: XD
GlennSeto: the strats
wicker_knight: and it doesn't affect your recharge rate, so it's only affecting the stock of mana
silenceaux: Players will always do the thing that is available, even if it isn't fun.
Koshindan: @wicker_knight Your recharge rate increases based on max mana.
Koshindan: But still useless.
TehAmelie: well, the default mana regeneration works out to always refill your mana in about 30 seconds
wicker_knight: @Koshindan oh it does? well, yeah. i guess still doesn't resolve the issue
Leafwind104: I hear "poise" does something
lifecharacter: I remember not knowing what the hell poise was.
TehAmelie: or maybe it was 2 minutes
silenceaux: I only enjoyed Dark Souls because I had watched people play the first 2 hours or so of it multiple times.
Leafwind104: I also hear a lot of people can't explain precisely what "poise" does
lifecharacter: Poise is how well you can take a hit.
TehAmelie: resistance to being knocked down
silenceaux: Having to figure out most of the basic stuff would have been really tiring.
e_bloc: cheer108 I didn't realize a game this old could be this fascinating
Durugai: GGG devs said they don't tend to do surveys because people don't know how to answer the "why" questions
Koshindan: Those wands could sell for a lot. :<
Durugai: tend to not*
Earthenone: skeleton archer heard you earlier
thraximore: hardcore run is over
wicker_knight: Also, even if they don't articulate their reasons, they probably still exist ,and will probably affect later things that you do and that the people influenced by you do
CatherineThePrettyGreat: This was the game that took me from being a gamer girlfriend to being an actual gamer.
TehAmelie: "oh, you're extra strong?" -Adam Savidan, last words
Durugai: Yes
ElementalAlchemist: "Death takes its toll of 87 gold" - Ah, a literal toll
wicker_knight: yeah, that's true with almost all customer satisfaction/expert consulting
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Oatway_: possible is a space that constricts the older your project is
Durugai: "Why did you quit?" Being the one where they would rather want the data of what the player was doing the last 2 hours before never logging in again, rather than try and ask them why they quit
pimiento: death talks half the gold on your person, hence you should stash it.. yea?
Inkompetence: Rosewater has said something along the lines of "listen to your players to find out what's wrong with your game, but never how to fix it."
PigmyWurm: MaRo said similar stuff: Players are really good at saying what they don't like but not good at saying why
TehAmelie: extra fast is also bad
Zyme86: F
couldntpickausername: is that a medieval clients from hell?
wildpeaks: oh lord they cometh
BloodnBullets: people dont know what they want, they just know they arent happy with what is
wicker_knight: see also, critics
Kramburger: The story of Michalangeo using marble dust to pretend he was 'fixing' David's nose
Durugai: and often they barely know why they are unhappy about a thing
Oatway_: yes @Inkompetence players are great at finding problems, and bad at finding solutions
Inkompetence: @Oatway_ that's much closer, thanks! :)
Kramburger: Wow, Talking Sim iIS a full spoil stream. It even spoils a video that's not out yet
couldntpickausername: I remember like 10 years later seeing starcraft in stores
silenceaux: Your reward is boots
TehAmelie: heck, people will get angry at a game that makes them lose and not realize that they are in fact having fun
TacitusVigil: As one does.
GlennSeto: awww, that's so nice
randomino5: D2 isn't timeless, unfortunately. I think PoE finally fired it. The graphics are just too dated.
ArmadilloAL: Master of Orion 2 holds up better than any other PC game of that generation. Fight me.
ArmadilloAL: I actually have a copy of that game for Windows Vista.
RvLeshrac: Remember when they released the NEW CONTENT and we collectively flipped our shit?
Earthenone: "this is one of the coolest parts of the game" "i cant carry any more"
GlennSeto: Same, Cam, same!
silenceaux: "but beware the danger that lies ahead."
darkecologist: i've been playing this. i google something about runes, and the website i found was very old-fashioned. textured background making everything hard to read.
Zyme86: If more Celts were like those two the romans would not ahve stood a chance
SajuukSjet: Asterix and Obelisk... so much fun
Earthenone: no magical glowing line, but you can sort out what it means, generally
TehAmelie: who here always looked carefully at what order to touch the stones instead of just brute forcing it?
Master_Gunner: Wasn't Morrowind very bad with directions?
SerGarretCameron: Morrowind.]
BloodnBullets: any point and click adventure game?
SerGarretCameron: it was so bad with that.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Zelda
Laserbeaks_Fury: LoZ and AoL were bad about guiding the player in favor letting them
SajuukSjet: Morrowing had a journal log, at least, iirc
silenceaux: Oh god. Yeah, Adventure of Link was atrocious for that.
Laserbeaks_Fury: I am Error
silenceaux: "I am Error" Yes you sure are
RealGamerCow: AoL was very much geared to need Nintendo Power to beat.
TacitusVigil: I hated Zelda II when I was a kid, but I love it now. It might be b/c I know where to go what to do now.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: Morrowind I give a pass because i was like 13?14? when I played it, and it was the most immersed in a game i've ever been
GlennSeto: Adventure of Link is... a really lackluster Dark Souls de-make.
Earthenone: aaaaaaand back to diablo
SydPreviouslyHeadache: and I can't play it anymore because the geometry gives me bad headaches
Zyme86: Put the cows in smash you cowards
lifecharacter: Now go murder some old NPCs.
randomino5: mmm that classical guitar strum
silenceaux: What is with Blizzard and this particular guitar echo
Moddington: Tristram theme song of the year all the years
Zyme86: OMG I just remembered the dekard kain rap
GlennSeto: Matt Uelmen really made his mark with this track.
Earthenone: how many sockets will your leg have?
SharkHero08: Adam what if I dont know this song? SeriousSloth
Laserbeaks_Fury: "Whut ken I dooo fer ya?"
Mashamino: FeelsGriswoldMan
solahwin_tampramain: this game still has an online seen, right?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Say high to Wirt
Phothrism: trhat damn kid :p
SydPreviouslyHeadache: but yeah, Morrowind they start you out in the swamp dock, tell you to take the silt strider to Marco(?) in Balmora and next ot he Silt Strider was a cave with enslaved Kajit and Argonians to free
CrookedSmile: adria
BrindleBoar: Adria
Laserbeaks_Fury: Adria
Scrubbodiestobears: Adria
pimiento: man amon tobin.. need to listen to him again
Laserbeaks_Fury: Leah's mom
nervousdavid: she is in D3
Moddington: I sense a soul in search of answers!
BrindleBoar: I sense a soul in search of answers!
w1nsol: Adria, the totally trustworthy.
TacitusVigil: Adria? The Orici? Kappa
GlennSeto: Adria is busy doing whoppiecushion with the Wanderer.
Phothrism: haha, so immersive "hold on diablo"
Moddington: *hifives brindleboar*
thraximore: not gonna equip the ring?
Phothrism: F ?
Kramburger: !panic
LRRbot: lrrFINE THERE IS NO NEED TO PANIC, IT'S FINE. lrrFINE
SenseAmidstMadness: !panic
LRRbot: lrrFINE THERE IS NO NEED TO PANIC, IT'S FINE. lrrFINE
wildpeaks: uh oh
Earthenone: which is probobly why portals dont work so well on diablo in 2 :P
control_rig: !panic
wildpeaks: yay fixed :)
SajuukSjet: sydpreviouslyheadache: was that the cave of impossible to defeat characters for a starting player?
ArmadilloAL: Realism.
wildpeaks: back to hell bois
Zyme86: Funny enough the song that started to make my get used to and later actually like rap/r&B was the Deckard Cain rap
wildpeaks: savage :D
SajuukSjet: heh, when was your last save?
Delire: @LoadingReadyRun small tips, shift click potion and left click on belt to buy 8+ in 2 click
Durugai: heeeeeey!
control_rig: Harsh but fair
e_bloc: lrrWOW lrrWOW
w1nsol: Shots fired
silenceaux: d u n k s
Zyme86: Adam Savage-adan
e_bloc: the game is great except all the crashing
Scrubbodiestobears: he did, you guys were talking
SenseAmidstMadness: 76 should not have been released
Durugai: he already did
Oatway_: put Cain is smash you cowards
Zyme86: Put deckard Cain in smash you cowards
TehAmelie: hold on, guy in the gibbet, i'm just gonna pick up the gold left by your butchered neighbors
Kramburger: Use your words, Deckard
silenceaux: I thought Gibbets were like... Fully bound to a board, not locked in a cage
SenseAmidstMadness: Taking people's money in exchange for FO76 was a mistake, and refusing to issue refunds is inexcusable
silenceaux: have I just been wrong this entire time.
Badchop: Mae Borowski for Smash!
GlennSeto: That poor man.
Laserbeaks_Fury: I mean, Deckard Cain is in Heroes of the Storm
DoodlestheGreat: It could've used removal of the bugs copy-pasted from Fallout 4 which modders had already fixed two years ago...
TehAmelie: Cain main, or M'Cain
Durugai: I mean they kinda did... he is in Heroes of the Storm
Banrael: cheer220 Man, this takes me back
Delire: @LoadingReadyRun Thats why you unequip your belt so the 8 potion you bought go into your inventory LUL
Moddington: FO76 seems like they ripped out all the NPCs from FO4 and made it online-only. like, yeah, you can have fun with that, but that's only because they're already standing on the shoulders of their past achievements
ThiefOfPunk: Peace outie - Deckard Cain
RealGamerCow: 76's UI is bad. The game itself is fine, and I find it fun
Mashamino: Deckard Cain as a skin for Jigglypuff, "Stay a while and listen!"
Kramburger: There's your escort quest
GlennSeto: Years later, he reached the rogue camp.
Koshindan: Leah
pimiento: heck yea now you can ID all the stuff in your stash
SerGarretCameron: Diablo?
Kramburger: Leah
Oatway_: Leah
control_rig: Leah
Laserbeaks_Fury: Leah
Leafwind104: Leah
Scrubbodiestobears: Diablo
BrindleBoar: Leahblo
Crokoking: Bethesda always had the problem of making controls for controllers first. From Skyrim to Fallout 76 - it's always been bad for mouse+keyboard
Armstrong11139: I mean, D3 is on Switch...
DragonMZ: becomes tiddy diablo
TraceBullet: diabloette
Oatway_: commander shepard is mean to Cain, it's true
darkecologist: deckard cain is fine right? went to live on a farm i think.
2rrr_mirror_breaker: Hey look skeleton archers, no one tell paul
Koshindan: Pepin's charred corpse.
GlennSeto: "hangs out" Kappa
Kramburger: Can we proc a Wirt's leg?
control_rig: You can find Ogden, Wirt, and... what was the Healer's name?
CrookedSmile: wirts hanging out with his wooden leg down in the boottom
Phothrism: so much cash
Kramburger: C O W L E V E L
GlennSeto: oh gawd, a socket!
Lazy_Insomniac: moo
Kramburger: thereisnocowlevel
Ukon_vasara: obviously you need a leg to kik some undead butt
wicker_knight: ___Obviously___
GlennSeto: gross
Earthenone: only 1 socket, time to pave the run\
sir_jack_DB: there is no cow level
TehAmelie: my buddy was so mad at me cause i convinced him to put his best gem in Wirt's leg as an experiment
mtvcdm: lrrCOW
darkecologist: this was definitely before i had the internet. how were people supposed to figure that out?
control_rig: YEP
lifecharacter: Fashion Souls now.
SMS1080: the best
pimiento: oh man yes
Rhynerd: yeah!
pimiento: back in the day that was mind blowing
Phothrism: yeaaah
ChiefEngineerMichael: !nextr
GlennSeto: That's the fucking reason.
control_rig: Fashion-ablo II
ChiefEngineerMichael: !next
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ArcOfTheConclave: that is the best in life.
TehAmelie: Diablo Wears Prada is the name of the game
Oatway_: it's feedback
SajuukSjet: I Did not spend a ton of time in Destiny 2 getting my current armour setup >.>
FarleyF: But gee I wonder where Adra is
RealGamerCow: I'm trying to remember the oldest game to show gear on the character.
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magical_writer: Thank you for Talking Simulator this game. It takes me back to the good times of college
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Kramburger: Thirsty teen taking their character's clothes off
CrookedSmile: omg in diablo 1 when you went into town and your guy took off his helmet
ZuNy77: equipment showing up is legitimately too cool
control_rig: "DIablo Wears Prada" @TehAmelie that's amazing
Oatway_: crunchy, brain candy in the form of ownership
pimiento: yes, that is a cow all right.
snowb0und: Old Republic MMO had a similar system
Laserbeaks_Fury: Champions Online had something similar
RealGamerCow: My character in Everquest 1's gear was ugly as sin and I loved it.
ChiefEngineerMichael: Are we staying a while to listen?
snowb0und: And... maybe Rifts (not the tabletop)
TehAmelie: i do try to come up with suitable variaitons for different game names to play Fashion Souls in
Kramburger: I love that Deckard Cain has been 1000 years old for the whole series
TehAmelie: also grammar
GlennSeto: "some time ago"
darkecologist: aloof
thraximore: PTSD man
Moddington: visible equipment is sooo much cheaper artistically with 3D assets than with 2D sprites
jubale1: al-oof
TehAmelie: "Treadborne" is my favorite
pimiento: i thought perhamps it was simple PTSD we could safely ignore
Nigouki: "increasingly aloof" is a great way to describe demon possession
hoktauri: watching this and listening to Live is high school all over again
FarleyF: Adam have you ever heard the Deckard Cain Rap song
GlennSeto: Didn't he ram the soulstone into his nogging?
Mashamino: "Screaming in the night, always something about... 'Nam..."
TacitusVigil: "Sir, this is an Arby's drive through"
flouncy_magooo: Big if true, Cain
MasterOfArtifice: I just spent 2 hours reporting hate speech on twitter. Hows everyone elses night going?
Kramburger: Soul containing the soul of Diablo wedged into his forehead "I suspect he may be possessed by Diablo"
pimiento: the fun thing about that end game cinematic from D1 is that the devs had no idea it would be there, and didn't think much of it at all
randomino5: oft gang eglay
Laserbeaks_Fury: Somehow better than Newt in Alien 3
pimiento: blizz north crew made the game, blizz south jammed the story into it
randomino5: agley
Zyme86: You can do everything perfectly, and still lose
Leafwind104: or you can become the thing you were trying to destroy... etc
Spacecarl: But at a massive cost
lifecharacter: I mean, the worldstone breaks at the end.
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Master_Gunner: Everyone wins, but then in the expansion, you still lose.
OriginalGarwulf: So, at the time this was released, it was more or less standard to be able to port your character from a game into its sequel. This game, however, threw that out so competely that it burnt Tristram to the ground.
Kramburger: It's why I love the Final Fantasy XIV A relm Reborn cinematic so much. The heroes do their best and still lose
BrindleBoar: "You can do everything right and still lose. That is not weakness, that is life."
randomino5: Oh oh I amember that episode
Durugai: the tiiiiniest bank
TehAmelie: Tal Rasha held Mephisto inside his head for a thousand years while chained in a tomb, how impressive is that?
TacitusVigil: Sounds like quote 5315 again.
SerGarretCameron: It is possible to commit no mistakes and still loose. That is not weakness, that is life
Moddington: "It is possible to commit no mistakes, and still lose"
TStodden: It's small... for now...
GlennSeto: The one thing about Blizzard stories I always roll my eyes at is the tendency to have massive betrayals by characters that you see coming for miles.
Zyme86: Strategigema
flouncy_magooo: Have we already talked to Gheed? I love his scummy dialogue
randomino5: the game with the finger clips and wires
control_rig: Oh God XCom is so bad for that
RvLeshrac: In XCom, you can have a 100% chance to hit, and
Oatway_: that's a lesson MTG can teach pretty well
randomino5: Making no mistakes and still losing = Magic, yeah
TacitusVigil: Sometimes, the hard six you're looking for never comes.
w1nsol: I feel like Magic teaches you that very well.
control_rig: Whooo boy
thraximore: oh god darkest dungeon
Moddington: @control_rig I think you mean "so good for that"
jubale1: Roguelikes are that way often. you play the game perfect but random events destroy you anyhow
Novus_Spes: Call out to Adam's Hardcore GRIND in Darkest Dungeon.
ArmadilloAL: I'm more familar with the corollary where you can do everything wrong and still win.
Phothrism: Should games be like that mechanically if that can be avoided?
e_bloc: seabatBRAIN seabatYIKES
Durugai: gg go next
SrMuskrat: MTG that isa big part of it too you can pull an LSV get to Game 5 of the PT finals Mull to 4 even when it was absolutely correct and lose in the most annoying way possible
hoktauri: DO IT
control_rig: You SHOULD!
Leafwind104: Please do
SydPreviouslyHeadache: That would be great Adam
wildpeaks: now you need to :)
Kramburger: BTW, I just had a visceral reaction to the trapped chest audio sting
Oatway_: Adam, the Red Hook folk are cool and pretty approachable if you do want to talk to 'em
TehAmelie: you could play Diablo 2 ironman. that's when you don't talk to any vendors
GlennSeto: How far are you into your Bloodmoon/torchless run, Adam?
BrindleBoar: Darkest Dungeon is exclusively ironman.
mtvcdm: It's certainly something some people can handle. Screwed-by-RNG wouldn't appeal to me, but it would to some.
Zyme86: https://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Light_Meter Black as Pitch (0) ++++ Stress (+40% on Radiant, +40% on Darkest, +50% on Bloodmoon) +++ Monster ACC and DMG (+12.5/+25% on Radiant, +12.5/+25% on Darkest, +12.5/+30% on Bloodmoon) +++ Heroes Surprised (+40%) +++ Loot (Gold/Items +30%/+12 draws) +++ Player Crits (+3%) Not shown on UI: +++ Monster Crit (+5% on Radiant, +5% on Darkest, +6% on Bloodmoon)
brainbosh: I still would love to see Cam look at the XCom game The Bureau .
wicker_knight: torchlight is a risk-reward mechanic. Lower light means more loot but heroes get more hurt and RNG is broader
Issurru: they refuse heals, pass turns all the fun BS Kappa
Rhynerd: @brainbosh from the start?
control_rig: Augh. God that quillbeast crawled on Cam's head
Novus_Spes: Cam should be a Guest over on Seabats and watch the grind.
popedeadpool: Torchlight is indicative of an in game difficulty, that can be managed by the player.
Moddington: [losing control of the situation intensifies]
RealGamerCow: they will become useless piles of goo
Rhynerd: Because I don't know if they'd get far enough for this one part of The Bureau I'd like to see discussed in Talking Sim
sjcTheos: turn down for what?
Rhynerd: sometimes they'll hurt themselves
wildpeaks: everything has to align perfectly
zed_alpha: There's specific behavior patterns they can exhibit when they're too stressed out. They might become super-cowardly and keep trying to retreat, or they might become narcissistic, and constantly insult their teammates (which stresses everyone else out), or they might be hopeless, which means they keep stressing THEMSELVES out, to the point where they'll quite often have heart attacks and/or attempt suicide.
Rhynerd: sometimes they'll do whatever they want, like panicking.
pimiento: a lot%
Zyme86: And you are guaranteeded 3 deaths on the last level so you can only get three deaths ever in the normal run of play
lifecharacter: Sometimes a Shambles comes out of the Brambles.
TehAmelie: if you want an impossible game later on Adam, i suggest No Man's Sky on permadeath mode
BrindleBoar: it's possible to only get 2 deaths, but it involves hitting so hard you skip a phase
popedeadpool: Valuable discussion.
mtvcdm: Darkest Dungeon has just so, so many ways a character can just decide for you that you're going to lose.
Laserbeaks_Fury: I mean, Diablo 2 has a Hardcore mode
wicker_knight: or, Impossible is actually a good example of this. Even honest dice won't help you if you have to consistently win the rolls but the "house" i.e. the AI doesn't
SajuukSjet: RNG mechanics, cross applicable
Leafwind104: Oh yeah torchless means the Shambler can just pop up and ruin your day
TehAmelie: there's like two people on Steam who have the cheevo for beating that
Ukon_vasara: the idea of self imposed handicaps like the ones discussed and like, pokemon nuzlocke runs is an interesting thing to talk about
Laserbeaks_Fury: I do not miss having to click on each pile of gold
Novus_Spes: @Leafwind104 *shiver* Shambler....
Kramburger: This game was a lot of people's entry into Action RPGs and really helped the genre
TehAmelie: the secret is, you don't need to pick up the gold at all. it's small change
Novus_Spes: Hey Adam, if the Shambler showed up right now how freaked out would you be? ;-)
Rhynerd: I remember fighting a shambler. Still can't believe I killed it the first time.
Oatway_: Games offer a feedback loop absent in other media
Leafwind104: What you mean in Diablo?
RealGamerCow: Some games are skinner boxes, I recognize that, and just don't care sometimes.
thraximore: @Novus_Spes *FEARFUL*
wildpeaks: most games are based on accumulating something
Leafwind104: just somehow Shambles in?
Zyme86: Escapism is entiredly legit reasons
Zyme86: provided you dont get ost in the escape
Moddington: when people play for realism, they're usually still pursuing that same goal, of experiencing something they can't in real life
sopranocat: Adam, loot is important to you and yet you're really bad at picking it up? lol
TehAmelie: i remember seeing a Shambler for the first time. an enemy that actively hunts you? that can jump and follow you? jeez
couldntpickausername: realism is the worst thing to ever happend to the gaming industry
Novus_Spes: @thraximore HA! That was really good. You get all the points.
Kramburger: That feeling when you can beat a boss in a souls game with skill, like chaining visceral attacks, is almost hard to beat
mtvcdm: When I play sports games, I run far, far away from Madden and FIFA and MLB The Show. I could just... watch sports... if I wanted that. I want Super Dodge Ball. I want Mutant League Football. I want wacky.
ArcOfTheConclave: bearasses?
Rhynerd: Are summoned shamblers the same as random encounter shamblers?
Leafwind104: Wait the Shambler can follow you?!
TehAmelie: well, the ones in Quake
r10pez10: i am murloc
SrMuskrat: @mtvcdm Like NFL Blitz or NBA Jam type sports games?
Leafwind104: So if you run it just fights you again at the next opportunity?
RealGamerCow: I do agree with Alex's RNG drop idea, that the percentages should climb the longer you grind.
mtvcdm: SrMuskrat, for me that's price-of-admission stuff. At LEAST that wacky.
Laserbeaks_Fury: It took me nearly 2 expansions to fish up a Sea Turtle
SajuukSjet: mtvcdm: ...... Blood Bowl?
thraximore: @Novus_Spes "Many fall in the face of chaos, but not this one... not today."
mtvcdm: Behold The Kickmen. That kind of thing.
TehAmelie: it's an easy thing to do with RNG, the way your chance of a random encounter increases with every step until it becomes inevitable
karpma: *easy clap*
Durugai: Isn't this like speedrun god RNG for this map? :P
mtvcdm: Old-school "authentic" games tend to get a pass because it was still, like, 8 and 16-bit and there was a limit back then as to how realistic you could really get. So the Ken Griffey Jr. games pass.
Novus_Spes: @thraximore I really want when Adam plays Magic for the table friend to just use Darkest Dungeon quotes in response to anything that happens.
sopranocat: Yeah, the first strategy build-a-thing resource management game I've enjoyed since like 5th grade is Stellaris. It has to be out in space Fox people adopting space amoebas and making alliances with mushroom people before I'm into it
SajuukSjet: the handling of RNG for the correct experience is something that seems to be hard to handle
thraximore: @Novus_Spes "Remember the overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer..."
Phothrism: versimilitude?
Durugai: you want verisimilitude
Leafwind104: "A Singular Strike!"
SajuukSjet: that is, static constraints seem to used a lot, and that seems to put a lot of people off...
zed_alpha: Real-ish-m?
Spacecarl: just chugging down those mana potions
Novus_Spes: @thraximore lrrAWESOME
Leafwind104: "Dazed... reeling... about to break!"
TheWanderingNomad: @Spacecarl - "Hi my name is Bob and I'm addicted to Mana Potions."
Ukon_vasara: that sounds like the opposite of something that often comes up on Watch + Play where these maps were clearly made by ppl who dont know what a room looks like
Leafwind104: (use that one for when someone dazes someone's key spell)
Novus_Spes: "A trifling victory, but a victory nonetheless."
gawag_: More Baudrillard on talking sim pls
pimiento: our character here is wearing a beer helmet with mana potions either side
Rhynerd: "Press on with this advantage, give them no quarter!"
thraximore: "Monstrous size has no intrinsic merit... unless inordinate exsanguination be considered a virtue."
ArcOfTheConclave: "Dispatch this thug in brutal fashion, that all may hear of your arrival!"
RvLeshrac: So, Forklift Simulator 2019. That is all.
TehAmelie: a wizard is like a millionaire, and mana potions are like speeding tickets
Kramburger: Diablo seems like it could benefit from Darkest Dungeon's sanity mechanic. The PC from the first game sure as shit failed their sanity roll at the end of the game
Spacecarl: Sometime you should show off Gheed
ElementalAlchemist: Are we talking about Shenmue?
zed_alpha: "Glittering gold...trinkets and baubles...paid for in blood."
Novus_Spes: "Prestigious size alone does not diswage the sharpened blade."
Earthenone: lrrGheed
RvLeshrac: ElementalAlchemist: No, I just browsed past it on Steam.
SajuukSjet: WarCraft cheats, glittering prizes :D
wildpeaks: time flies when having fun
sopranocat: It needs to have it's own intrinsic logic, but we don't want reality
mtvcdm: Oh. Oh the Darkest Dungeon narrator is *choice*.
RvLeshrac: ElementalAlchemist: Looks pretty realistic, at least.
zed_alpha: "Aaaagh oh my god tentacle demons are eating my faaace."
thraximore: "Their formation is broken! Press this advantage!"
Rhynerd: "More dust, more death, more dissapointment..."
ArcOfTheConclave: “The bellows blast once again! The forge stands ready to make weapons of war."
RvLeshrac: It was between 覇県を握れ ~47都道府県大戦~ and HotPuzzle:Grils
ArcOfTheConclave: "Make no mistake, we will face ever greater threats. Our soldiers must be ready."
TehAmelie: what's really funny is you can spell it "glitterign prises" or just about any wrong way and it works
Novus_Spes: "A man in a cloth, claiming communion with the divine? Madness."
thraximore: "In time, you will know the tragic extent of my failings."
ArcOfTheConclave: "At home in wild places, she is a stalwart survivor, and a strict instructor."
sopranocat: Also, are you guys trying to give Adam PTSD with all the Darkest Dungeon quotes? KappaHD
mtvcdm: "These nightmarish creatures can be felled! They can be beaten!"
thraximore: and nothing else lol
sopranocat: I think I used the kap emoji correctly there
Novus_Spes: "What greater laboratory than the blood soaked battlefield?"
Rhynerd: I know, it's great
thraximore: I've been playing Bloodmoon, about halfway through and only got four deaths so far
RvLeshrac: I dug too deep and wound up on Elon Musk Simulator. 2. The sequel to, apparently, the first game of the same name.
Leafwind104: "the thing is more terrible than I can describe..."
thraximore: I feel confident, but we all know where that leads
mtvcdm: I mean, like I just said. The Ancestor is SO GOOD.
sopranocat: @thraximore skill
mtvcdm: Those lines are so great.
Novus_Spes: 'Packs laden with loot are often short on supplies."
Leafwind104: Wayne June really knocked it out of the park
ArcOfTheConclave: "Trouble yourself not with the cost of this crusade - it's noble end affords you broad tolerance in your choice of means."
zed_alpha: "This one has become vestigial."
TehAmelie: i remember Jeff Bezos simulator that ends with you becoming Elon Musk. . .
thraximore: bloody trial and error more like. I've got 643 hours of playtime and still haven't beaten the hardest difficulty
sopranocat: o_O
RvLeshrac: TehAmelie: Is that the first game in the series?
ArcOfTheConclave: "An eternity of futile struggle — a penance for my unspeakable transgressions."
Rhynerd: "You remember our venerable home? Opulent and Imperial, gazing proudly above the moor?"
TehAmelie: sounds likely
ArcOfTheConclave: "Great heroes can be found even here, in the mud and rain."
RvLeshrac: Oh, I haven't seen the VOD yet, how did Darksiders III turn out?
Novus_Spes: "Word of our efforts are spreading. We can use this!"
ArcOfTheConclave: "Strong drink, a game of chance, and companionship. The rush of life."
sopranocat: It's really good that my new desk is arriving Thurs and not tomorrow, while LRR is great to run in background while assembling furniture, I can't do that when all my stuff is disconnected to be moved onto what is being assemble
thraximore: "Women and men, fools and corpses. All will make their way to us now that the road is clear."
ArcOfTheConclave: "A little hope, however desperate, is never without worth."
TehAmelie: ah here we are. it's a five minutes long text game https://direkris.itch.io/you-are-jeff-bezos
Novus_Spes: "And now, the darkness holds dominion."
ArcOfTheConclave: "In the end, every plan relies upon a strong arm, and tempered steel."
ArcOfTheConclave: "Fan the flames! Mold the metal! We are raising an army!"
thraximore: Wayne June was featured in a trailer for a new boardgame, Everrain. Definitely check it out if you haven't seen it yet!
sopranocat: Everrain? Must be set in Seattle
ArcOfTheConclave: "The front line of this war is not in the dungeon, but rather, inside the mind."
Fr0Dough: What/who is on right now?
Novus_Spes: "Gilded icons and dogmatic rituals... for some, a tonic against the bloodshed."
Rhynerd: "Driving out coruption is an endless battle, but one that must be fought."
thraximore: He plays an old guy who discovers an ancient evil... wait this sounds familiar
Spacecarl: At some point Gheed should be shown off
ArcOfTheConclave: "A mighty sword-hand anchored by a holy purpose. A zealous warrior."
r10pez10: it means you didn't get hit by the other street fighter
Novus_Spes: I like how chat has just become Ancestor quotes now. I thought Adam would have noticed by now. Heh.
SMS1080: it's a very tidy idea, presented without interruption
ArcOfTheConclave: "Barbaric rage and unrelenting savagery make for a powerful ally."
Himyul: Perfect means "10/10, GOTY"
mtvcdm: Executed with impunity!
thraximore: "Trouble yourself not with the cost of this crusade. Its noble end affords you broad tolerance in your choice of means."
ArcOfTheConclave: "A lawman and his faithful beast. A bond forged by battle and bloodshed."
Novus_Spes: " Every creature has a weakness. The wise hero trains for what she will face. "
thraximore: (fav line)
pimiento: diablo 2 was 10/10 goty when it was released, but there's always improvements to be made.. and they did em!
Spacecarl: I would argue that the literal definition of perfect for a game is irrelevant if the game does something important enough.
SerGarretCameron: the world's made up, but the flaws don't matter.
ArcOfTheConclave: "A sister of battle. Pious and unrelenting."
RvLeshrac: I find Diablo 3 to be a much lesser game than Diablo 2.
RvLeshrac: The one thing nearly every other game at the time failed COMPLETELY to replicate from Diablo is the movement.
thraximore: Protip Antiquarian is a beast you just have to get used to her, took me ages to realize how good she is
mtvcdm: "A death by inches..."
Novus_Spes: "Idol, amulet, or lucky charm — the simplest object can be a talisman against evil. "
wicker_knight: This game feels like the pinnacle of what I wanted out of it at the time
RvLeshrac: Like Sacred may have the worst movement of any game I've ever played, but the REST of it is fantastic.
Rhynerd: "I remember days when the sun shone, and laughter could be heard from the tavern."
Novus_Spes: "He will be laughing still... at the end. "
RvLeshrac: I think the only game I've played that was "Better" than Diablo 2, in terms of graphical roguelikes, was the first Dungeon Siege.
thraximore: "Slowly, gently... this is how a life is taken."
ArcOfTheConclave: "Can the defiled be consecrated? Can the fallen find rest?"
RvLeshrac: I may be slightly biased after 4000 hours in Diablo 2.
Issurru: Like Big Rigs, perfect game with no flaws Kappa
DerpAttackGo: @LoadingReadyRun hello chat and adam and cameron
thraximore: "The swine draw power from their crude symbols and horrid markings. TEAR THEM DOWN."
Novus_Spes: "The fiends must be driven back, and what better place to begin than the seat of our noble line? "
Moddington: when I revisited D2 the only thing I really hated was potion management. devoting half your inventory and constantly restocking your belt just so you can keep doing cool spells instead of autoattacks
Spacecarl: the sound of your attacks whiffing and your health dropping REAL fast
ArcOfTheConclave: "This day belongs to the Light!"
Himyul: to be fair, it's pretty linear and you scale with the world pretty well
DerpAttackGo: @LoadingReadyRun hey a good tip is click the bottom the globes to bring up ur mana and hp numbers
Lightningbro: Ooh, Talking Sim with Adam and Cam, I should pay more attention to the schedule...
Himyul: immunities were the worst part of this game in my opinion
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Spacecarl: Well you have that one respec
ArcOfTheConclave: "A setback, but not the end of things."
ArmadilloAL: Yeah. Sequence breaking isn't really something you have to worry about stumbling into in this game.
TehAmelie: the worst part of the whole game in my opinion is monsters regenerate health so you can actually be completely unable to get through an area you're underleveled/undergeared/wrong build for
thraximore: "Word is traveling... ambition is stirring in distant cities. We can use this!"
RvLeshrac: Gotta grind for Mephisto so you can grind Mephisto.
Spacecarl: Sometimes when you get gear that you cant equip due to stats it hurts
nivek1234: Some if you are a melee character. Less so for casters
ArcOfTheConclave: "A marvel of technology - an engine of destruction!"
Krimarie: I need to play this again
thraximore: wayne june's voice lives in my head now
Rhynerd: "The front line of this war is not in the dungeon, but rather, inside the mind."
A_Catastrophic_Success: I remember my parents giving me the paid off reservation for Diablo 2 for Christmas and I actually got it a couple days before my birthday in July. I was so happy to finally get my hands on it. I still have it as well.
RvLeshrac: After thousands of hours, I don't think I ever got the right drops to complete a SINGLE runeword.
Lightningbro: Inversely, immunities and damage reduction/absorption is almost manditory for me in games, I like the puzzle of it. Like the one time in Final Fantasy I went "Wait, don't zombies die when you res them?" And one shot a zombie dragon boss in one game.
DerpAttackGo: but later runewords are really dumb and overpowered
Himyul: "Fus Rho Dah" Kappa
RvLeshrac: "Next week on Talking Simulator: Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction"
Kramburger: God, I just remembered that you can get gear that improves skills above the cap
pimiento: all they have to do for a re-release of this game would be high res wide screen support, optional health/mana regen (or some better way to manage it other than potions) and auto gold pickup..
SydPreviouslyHeadache: i still remember a friend of mine used Iron Golem on an item that had that indestructible rune chain. and that golem was not indestructible, he was sad because one of those runes were sort of rare?
panpan_unbroken: Oh man.... this game has not aged well :o
ArcOfTheConclave: "In radiance may we find victory."
thraximore: aged better than YO MAMA
Moddington: @Lightningbro I think the key difference is that D2 is a game where you'd focus around one ability with a single damage type. FF on the other hand gives you an excessively broad spread of abilities
RvLeshrac: It has aged well enough, the only problem is that the sprites are low-level.
RvLeshrac: low-res*
CataclysmicReverb: Thoughts on the Arreat Summit site?
CranberryJeus: wait... im not subscribed?
Phothrism: aged way better than most games
Lightningbro: @panpan_unbroken Agreed, Looking at it I keep thinking "I played 200 hours of this, how did I see anything?"
RvLeshrac: And the max resolution is low.
ArcOfTheConclave: "Many fall in the face of chaos; but not this one, not today."
randomino5: It required some looking on the Internet
RvLeshrac: The gameplay itself is still flawless.
Kramburger: I'm not great at figuring out builds, I tend to just go for damage and build glass cannons
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CranberryJeus: waiiit
r10pez10: pretty soon prolly
wicker_knight: I mean, Torchlight
wicker_knight: also, League of Legends
RvLeshrac: Dungeon Siege!
Kramburger: Probably soon. Return of the Obra Dinn brought back monochrome dithering so anything's possible
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SydPreviouslyHeadache: i could never get into Torch Light
CranberryJeus: i missed a few months lol fixed
loulou2222: we're still on 16bit aesthetic, gotta give it time
Golldum: path of exile, divinity, something else im forgetting
Lightningbro: Path of Exile, and Diablo 3 had an event, in both cases they downres graphics for pixilization
RvLeshrac: NOX, and Dungeon Siege.
Moddington: do you mean ACTUAL iso 2D, or 3D with the camera set up to imitate it?
silenceaux: Titan Quest?
Rhynerd: Is there a new Dungeon Siege?
SydPreviouslyHeadache: and I had/have no idea why i couldn't
DoodlestheGreat: Or Dead Cells.
OriginalGarwulf: Interesting thought - this is a very bloody game...which wasn't the norm when it was released (there were games like Doom, but RPGs didn't tend towards gory). The Diablo series basically aimed for a more mature audience.
RvLeshrac: silenceaux: Titan Quest is fun, but the movement is complete trash.
svoid: One of my favorite parts of this game was the art of all the items in the inventory
TehAmelie: there's craftmanship in this 2D. they had to draw animation frames for every action in every direction with every possible outfit for each character
RvLeshrac: silenceaux: I mean, I enjoy it still, but the movement is just complete garbage.
Lightningbro: Yo, go you @CranberryJeus I always love watching people gift subs to other people
pimiento: gotta make a list, then check it twice
RvLeshrac: silenceaux: It isn't as miserable as Sacred, but still.
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Lightningbro: (facepalm) Thank you @CranberryJeus XD
Plaicoson: did canada change time? im getting to catch your streams until later now
pimiento: DST became disabled @Plaicoson
RvLeshrac: I remember being extremely excited about Diablo 3, then looking for a baby to punch when it turned out it was completely linear with no replaying areas.
TokenMickus: and suddenly YETI
Phothrism: also yetis
sir_jack_DB: the YE-TAY
randomino5: As a surrealist I approve of this
loulou2222: we have time in base 10
ArmadilloAL: Oh yes, our imperial time with it's 24-hour days and 60-minute ours can't keep up.
Lightningbro: Bah, man, it's so difficult catching shows when you're in Imperial time XD
DoodlestheGreat: Now, were loot filters a thing with D2?
sir_jack_DB: nope!
Moddington: not enough loot to filter it
chrisrd19: one of my favorite parts is how the monastery is clearly an end zone, but the waypoints let you know there's still more to come.
SharkHero08: Cameron have you ever thought of doing a Talking Sim on games in the same series that are across multiple platforms? i.e. the various Warhammer Games compared to the table top experience
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AFlockOfStiltPuffers: Oh, Diablo 2? The game I grew up on? Yes please.
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sopranocat: It's been so long since I've played D2 but wow do I remember how much I hated those porcupine things
randomino5: The UFO: Aftermath/Afterlight is also set in You Lose World
reptileviking: I LOVED THAT
Moddington: eh, xcom 2 isn't set in those worlds, it retcons xcom 1 as being a simulation
TehAmelie: the greenest timeline
Kramburger: "Remember all those times you saved scummed?"
zed_alpha: The what if machine
Ukon_vasara: the what if machine
pimiento: the what-if machine
loulou2222: the what if machine
Master_Gunner: XCom 2 is the sequel to the first time you played XCom, not the hundredth time.
randomino5: er, "UFO: Aftermath/Afterlight" not "the"
snowb0und: Tales of Interest
r10pez10: ah, the longfinger
pimiento: well that was interesting! i pity the next.. TALE OF INTEREST
ArmadilloAL: @Master_Gunner So it starts 15 minutes after XCOM 1 did?
loulou2222: what if i had a finglonger
lost_tv01: Ahhhh playing the best diablo : D also hello : D
w1nsol: I get why people would like it, but I really didn't enjoy the story set up for Xcom 2. Was probably a big reason i bounced off it so early.
Master_Gunner: Canonically, yes.
Nigouki: What If HL3 was released in 2010?
Earthenone: "what if zelda was a girl"
reptileviking: Oooh that's a good one
TrakoZG: what if Dreamland was made
Kykiwi: What if sheppard died in me 1?
reptileviking: The Daikatana one I mean
Kramburger: What if Starcraft: Nova got made?
lost_tv01: well the best diablo is probably path of exile?
hoktauri: what if starcraft ghost got made
Master_Gunner: According to XCom 2, you lost the first game within the first month.
RvLeshrac: If Daikatana was good, you'd be playing the GameBoy Color version.
Nirvana___: "Who actually owns the rights to Noone Lives Forever?"
Lightningbro: I would want "What if they actually did make a Dark Cloud 3 instead of White Knight Chronicles"
TehAmelie: what if Black Isle put out Fallout 3 before tanking?
wicker_knight: @Earthenone "What if the Legend of Zelda actually had Zelda as the adventurer?"
pimiento: what if duke nuken forever turned out to be good?
Despoiler98: Dear Dr Cam off topic but I was wondering if you and/or LRR was gonna do tabletop minis soon? Like warhammer quest or 40K?
reptileviking: What if Duke Nukem had been written by Yahtzee
korvys: Romero
r10pez10: what if nintendo stayed with trading cards only
GlennSeto: What if the Dreamcast had really taken off?
Himyul: What if Duke Nukem finished on its first deadline?
e_bloc: what if Fallout 3 used a realistic metro map :p
auxv: what if battlefront 3
RvLeshrac: Seriously, though, the GameBoy Color version of Daikatana was fnatastic.
CranberryJeus: John Romero visitted my school, i got him to sign my mint copy of daikatana.. so worth
cfpreston: so thats what would happen if i invented the finglonger
mutantironman05: What if dark souls was fun to grind?
loulou2222: what if EA didnt
SharkHero08: What if esports started earlier or, what if the infastructure that they have now was around in the beginning
CranberryJeus: super interesting talk too
flouncy_magooo: What if Pokemon hadn't been a hit?
sopranocat: What if Sierra had continued making King's Quest games at the level of storytelling and quality of game of 5 and 6?
Krimarie: What if Cain didn't die to butterflies?
RvLeshrac: ALSO, Romero still says Daikatana did nothing wrong.
devintownfish: what if mario/nintendo tanked and sonic/sega was prime
red_shoes_jeff: GBC Daikatana was okay.
thebuzzstreams: @loulou2222 What if EA didn't indeed!
solahwin_tampramain: what if half life 3?
mutantironman05: What if ash isn't 10?
Amentur: NOLF was Austin powers the video game with a female protag. I miss it dearly
lost_tv01: I mean; they are still making a diablo 4
Who_lio42: what if the N-gage was good
randomino5: Hang on let me make some popcorn before people get into it
CranberryJeus: yeah he e-mailed me the patches i needed back in 08
hoktauri: don't care either way about Immortal, think it was about the worst possible way they could of announced it
Leafwind104: 2012
reptileviking: What if they made more Eccho the dolphin games?
loulou2222: blizzcon just wasnt the time to have diablo immortals as the headliner
pimiento: they were making a diablo souls game that was a potential D4..
lost_tv01: they announced they were working on diablo 4 didn't they?
Himyul: more importantly, PoE came out 2013ish
anamelessdog: we'll get diablo 4 after Blizzard is done turning all their IPs into mobile games
Despoiler98: and Diablo 3 is still fun to play now
corpocracy: I liked how difficult it was, but that was about it
Kramburger: The worst part is that Immortal probably isn't having any impact on Diablo 4 development but gamers don't think like that
lost_tv01: @Himyul yessss
korvys: Path of Exile came out in 2013, and that was basically a Diablo game
r10pez10: whichcourse
snowb0und: I don't want a Diablo 4. Immortal is going to be more accessible to a greater audience of people that don't get as many games made for them. It's existence is better for the medium.
sopranocat: What if we had Holodecks like in TNG??
lifecharacter: They announced lots of things at Blizzcon. People just obsessed over the one thing because it gave them an excuse to complain.
zerg539: WoW almost did end up getting Canned in favor of doing Warcraft Adventures, Mark Kern and some of the Old Blizzard North Guys convinced the management that it was worth pursuing even though it basically cost them all their jobs
sir_jack_DB: boy it sure was Error 37 at launch
TrakoZG: Error 37!
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SajuukSjet: Also the D3 Market Place
Ukon_vasara: yeah, the problem isnt the what was announced but how it was announced, and more so just ppl not understanding they can be upset without being asshats
Spacecarl: And they REALLY turned D3 around with the expansion eventually
sopranocat: That's the #1 tech I've wanted since I was like 7
RvLeshrac: The RMAH gave Blizzard a perverse incentive.
hoktauri: I made a good bit of money off the D3 auction house
Moddington: @lost_tv01 no announcement, just heavy implications in the PR shuffle after the disastrous blizzcon opening ceremony
corpocracy: The auction house was interesting in that it was a glorious failure
RvLeshrac: RMAH was a stupid concept and a terrible implementation.
CamelAttack: The first version of Diablo 4 was going to be over the should Dark Souls style, but that was canned.
Krimarie: I made like $3
w1nsol: I remember loving the first 2 acts of Diablo 3, and then really disliking the 3rd and 4th.
lost_tv01: @Moddington wasn't it announced before the con?
pimiento: the auction house was a failure because they had a crappy loot system to go with it..
Who_lio42: the RM auction house did impact everyone because of how blizzard balanced the game for it
wicker_knight: it absolutely was
CataclysmicReverb: Yeah. Like, Diablo 2 had a really scummy secondary market, and I realize, from their perspective, RMAH was their way to stop that without taking it away...
OriginalGarwulf: If you watch the GDC post-mortems on Diablo 3, it's very clear that the people who had made 1 and 2 had moved on, and the people who were working on it did NOT understand why 1 and 2 had worked.
silenceaux: Auction house would probably prove that 99% of your drops were objectively worthless
Kykiwi: mogRip
Phothrism: f
Moddington: @lost_tv01 no, the D4 news pre-blizzcon was literally "guys don't get your hopes up about a d4 announcement"
Despoiler98: I waited to pick up D3 because of how many problems I have with the WoW launch
RvLeshrac: OriginalGarwulf: Which is stupid, because pretty much ANYONE who played D2 could tell you why D2 works.
DoodlestheGreat: @pimiento, that system was intentionally crappy, as it was intended to drive sales in the auction house.
pimiento: DoodlestheGreat : yea :/
Ukon_vasara: i like how we took our safety portal and instantly took an arrow in the back of the head
OriginalGarwulf: It's bizarre - I was watching it, and the main takeaway was that they thought it was all about the loot, and that was it.
Despoiler98: Dear Dr Cam off topic but I was wondering if you and/or LRR was gonna do tabletop minis soon? Like warhammer quest or 40K?
Laserbeaks_Fury: The day BC launched, Hellfire Peninsula was unplayable
Kramburger: People forget all the issues that WoW had during it's first year
SajuukSjet: would the Nova Ghost noshow be a stumble?
Moddington: @lost_tv01 because they had been hyping up that there was big diablo news coming, and everyone immediately started hyping themselves up for d4, so they felt they had to respond to that directly
Despoiler98: Are ya kidding the day WoW Vanilla launched it was Unplayable I WAS THERE :D
RvLeshrac: Kramburger: Oh no, I don't think anyone has actually forgotten.
lost_tv01: unsatisfying lore answers? so like diablo 3 : P
RvLeshrac: Despoiler98: s/day/weeks/
Leafwind104: So we gonna fight Andariel soon?
Despoiler98: @RvLeshrac login.....relogin....relogin....stutter
randomino5: The Butcher, The Smith, The Farrier, The Wainwright, The Miller
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WeedenProject: I think we need Adam on this show more often, this has been great :)
Moddington: D3's story is such a massive departure in tone from the previous games I can't even reconcile them as parts of a whole
Despoiler98: @RvLeshrac kill one random pig/wolf......login
RvLeshrac: Despoiler98: And yet the only lesson any company has learned is that people will just suck it up and not actually do anything.
VHGS: I found a cham in single player this week lmao
drewpoc2319: this is one of the best games of all time
Despoiler98: @RvLeshrac well I learned not to play a mmo at launch at least, but that's just me
lost_tv01: @Moddington I know right; diablo 1 and two spend the whole time telling you how dangerous the demons are; diablo 3 spends the whole time telling you how powerful YOU are
RvLeshrac: I'm almost certain that WoW was the first MMO that just failed *utterly* to even have a functioning game at launch.
RvLeshrac: I'm pretty sure SiN was the most spectacular technical game failure.
Despoiler98: @RvLeshrac star wars old republic
drewpoc2319: Can you play diablo 2 on Mac?
VHGS: @lost_tv01 I mean, not really? 99% of diablo 2 is owning useless clowns.
Leafwind104: @drewpoc2319 yes
Himyul: that's a really good analysis lost_tv01
RvLeshrac: They had to mail out discs to people who bought SiN, because the patch was 500mb, and no one had broadband.
drewpoc2319: @Leafwind104 do you need a disk or can you download it?
lost_tv01: @VHGS I mean the lore; not the gameplay
Leafwind104: I think you might need a disk but I'm not sure?
Lightningbro: I don't personally think that mobile games are bad. they can be not well designed, or worse still they can be ported to pc without proper UI and control overhaul. But having had a smartphone with a full keyboard for a long time, gaming in the right phone can be sick.
RvLeshrac: drewpoc2319: Download from b.net
El_Funko: Fun Funko Fact™: I named my player-killing character in Diablo "Peter Keller" because it sounded like Player Killer. One person noticed, and that was the only person I let live as a reward.
wildpeaks: it's perfect for you
RvLeshrac: drewpoc2319: You can still find the battlechest for like $5-10, sometimes, and the key works on b.net, unless they've changed things.
Scrubbodiestobears: @El_Funko "I like you, i'll kill you last" without the lie?
El_Funko: Pretty much yeah
lost_tv01: @El_Funko HA!
Scrubbodiestobears: amazing
RvLeshrac: 365-day Diablo 2 stream??
wildpeaks: perfection is relative, not an absolute, which is great because you can find value even in thing that others would discard
El_Funko: I had killed a lot of players by then, so I was pleasantly surprised that one person was like "Peter Keller? That sounds an awful lot like Player Killer"
TehAmelie: wanna tell us where to get that mod you had been playing, Adam?
sopranocat: maze fight yeah that sucked
Laserbeaks_Fury: oh yeah the wraiths in the Sanctuary
Lolbard: Mr 4th way Llama...
oyleslyck: I still explore every nook to reveal the entire map
El_Funko: Preach Adam
El_Funko: Act 3 slam pick worst act
SMS1080: ugh, that jungle
lost_tv01: your making me want to play the game; not the opposite
SydPreviouslyHeadache: yeah, act 3 is the low point
Himyul: +1 El_Funko
Golldum: what game is this?
Koshindan: Spider Forest, Great Marsh, Flayer Jungle
El_Funko: Diablo 2
reptileviking: That's when I stopped playing for a while
DoctorOfBeard: spider forest
reptileviking: Act 3 sicks
darkecologist: jungle has so long between waypoints
reptileviking: suck
lost_tv01: you need to get though the great marsh everytime
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Larkit: You make one of my all-time favorite games sound awful. Thanks, I hate it.
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egyptcraze: hey! its two of my favourite ppl together on stream!!!!!!
RvLeshrac: "And then you have to kill Mephisto 635,482 times."
SydPreviouslyHeadache: act 2 isn't the best but I dno't think it's that bad?
mi89325: 3 Bangin' quests.
lost_tv01: @SydPreviouslyHeadache I mean if you much up the tombs
Earthenone: 3 is the only one i activly dislike'
Spacecarl: You are Invading Hell in Act 4
corpocracy: And you get that CUTSCENE
Ukon_vasara: you need to plunge into the depths of blighttown before you can ascend out of it
VHGS: And diablo is the best designed encounter in the whole game
lost_tv01: ok act two tells you which tomb to go into at the end
SydPreviouslyHeadache: I guess in terms of ranking the acts I would still end up putting 2 only above 3
RvLeshrac: Oh WOW, Blizzard still wants $10 EACH for D2+LoD, which is more than Diablo 3 goes on sale for.
zed_alpha: the zero-g run to the boss is worth the entire stupid slog that is Noveria
SajuukSjet: ME1, I loved me My Pistol/Sniper loadout :D
Darleysam: I've always maintained that ME1 is my favourite in the series because the pace its flaws give it is just what I want
Kramburger: Sen's Fortress
Kykiwi: goood ole fun house
Larkit: @RvLeshrac yeah, but which game are you still gonna be booting up decades after it's release?
Darleysam: it's a bit, slow, expansive waste of space and that's ideal
Despoiler98: wow I never wanna play Dark Souls now
sjcTheos: Sen's Fortress is a masterpiece
RvLeshrac: Larkit: I mean, fair.
Darleysam: *big
r10pez10: no valleys no mountains
Moddington: @RvLeshrac Blizz treats its legacy games that aren't SC1 basically with contempt
RvLeshrac: Larkit: I barely pick up D3 any more, I briefly contemplated Necro for $7.50, but...
sjcTheos: (in that once you complete it you feel so good because you have just ascended through hell)
Lightningbro: "This is horrible, this is horrible, and this is horrible, and that's why I love it" can be a descriptor on many games, Dark Souls' combat included.
zed_alpha: Speaking of MAss Effect, that's the exact opposite feeling I had with ME3. 99 percent of the game is golden, but the last 10 minutes are horrifyingly bad.
Spacecarl: Time to gamble?
zed_alpha: but it doesn't wreck the ride
VHGS: That's actually dece
korvys: Economy
RvLeshrac: Fuck defense, get magic find
El_Funko: Hell yeah, greed stat. Pump it up and pull the slot machine lever
Himyul: the best stat is move speed
lifecharacter: Always get topaz and always put it in armor.
Earthenone: i feel ya adam
lost_tv01: that stat is the worst in diablo 3
HaanZzz: Movement speed, then mf :P
DoodlestheGreat: That's a wonderful stat to get in PoE.
Moddington: magic find is a super cool stat that feels great, but is actually really toxic at higher levels of play
TehAmelie: me, i never take off the bonus souls ring in Dark Souls
Moddington: in any loot game
RvLeshrac: Did Base 2 have a +Item Quality?
HaanZzz: That's cuz they nerfed it to the ground @lost_tv01
lost_tv01: they MASSIVELY nerfed magic find in diablo 3 Because of the item store
korvys: I'm here to find loot. So lets cut out the middle man and just increase the loot
JudgeKyle: Give me that magic crossbow from the bookshelf, stacking luck is pretty much always nuts
RvLeshrac: Moddington: that's the point of it.
ArmadilloAL: Who cares about potions? We have +12% magic find!
RvLeshrac: Moddington: It *ALWAYS* takes the place of a critical stat you can't play at high levels without, forcing you to choose between finding more stuff or progressing.
VHGS: @lost_tv01 that doesn't make any sense. If items were more common the prices would be lower, but there would also be more sales.
Himyul: talk about the Duriel boss fight. That's a load of horse apples.
Tiber727: Magic find is a boring stat that doesn't actually change your experience, and often turns that experience into what it should have been without the need for magic find.
lost_tv01: @VHGS they wanted you buying items instead of finding them
Lolbard: I may be an oddity here but I didn't hate act 3... Act 2 has always felt like a crappy grind to me though.
chrisrd19: i just think that they're doing a lot of world building and storytelling in acts 2 & 3.
RvLeshrac: Diablo 2 had a MASSIVE economy based on item sales, but when Blizzard gave themselves an incentive to actively make the game shittier so they could make money, it ruined everything.
RvLeshrac: People at the time were saying that "entitled gamers" were complaining about the AH for no good reason, but it actively made the game worse.
korvys: Man, Adam, I want to hear you talk about games forever.
Phothrism: so... this is an idle game :p ?
Lolbard: Act 3 has a refreshing look and feel about it that has always appealed to me and it's at a character point where things become more fun.
lost_tv01: also from a design perspective theres the balance between dps killing things faster to get better gear and killing things slower but with better drops; and the designers where like; killing things slow is bad.
Moddington: @RvLeshrac kind of the same thing as has been happening with loot boxes
zed_alpha: cheer100 can adam be on Talking Sim forever? this is easily one of the best episodes of this show y'all have ever done.
korvys: Hey, that's why I place Destiny
korvys: *play
Koshindan: Diablo is a clicker game. :)
SharkHero08: So Adam wants to cast Fireball as many times as possible
Phothrism: Adam is pretty good at this
Koshindan: At least in that you click to do everything.
RvLeshrac: Adam: Consider an episode of your show where you interview yourself about Diablo 2 Keepo
TehAmelie: i always liked to say this game is like Tetris except the blocks explode in gore
ArmadilloAL: Sounds like end game PoE. If you can see enemies, you're not killing them fast enough.
VHGS: It's a very mechanically challenging speedrun
lost_tv01: diablo isn't just a clicker game; otherwise games like dungeon siege 3 wouldn't have failed
Phothrism: it really is a sort of clicker game
RvLeshrac: DS3 was awful.
RvLeshrac: A worse downslide than D3.
wildpeaks: they're relaxing
wicker_knight: @lost_tv01 it being a clicker game doesn't mean there can't be good and bad versions of it
Lightningbro: "There's no strategy to it." I find this is similar to a remark that made me contextualize my love for Kingdom Hearts from the Completionist "Kingdom Hearts' story is confusing and convoluded, and that's why I love it, there's nothing wrong with that, it just isn't your taste"
lost_tv01: @wicker_knight fair; also cool user name
wicker_knight: Adventure Capitalist is a much worse game than Universal Paperclip or A Dark Room, but all three are clickers
Koshindan: Facets are something else. Kappa
wicker_knight: @lost_tv01 thanks :D
Lightningbro: Just because something seems like a negative, doesn't mean it is.
DoctorOfBeard: 2/2 rune
magical_writer: Ist worth 3 SOJ
TehAmelie: one word: Eve Online
silenceaux: As in ber ber ber ber
lost_tv01: player run economies; so like path of exile : P
Kramburger: Undercutting people at the AH in WoW, then getting pissed because someone was selling them for dirt cheap
LightBane_v1: the rune rarity was crazy though. i played the hell out of this game, highest rune i ever found was a single Ist LUL
wicker_knight: I remember when I was in undergrad econ there were a shocking nubmer of articles being written about the Stone of Jordan economy in Diablo 2
RvLeshrac: wicker_knight: Give Armory & Machine a try.
siouxfan_22: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 2:31:48.
Despoiler98: that was friggin AWESOME
SydPreviouslyHeadache: that reminds me of my most hated class. the lag-o-mancer
wicker_knight: @RvLeshrac sure. Is it another good clicker?
NathanJay_GA: 4 or 100
thejuggernate: it kills me that so many games don't allow for more than four players
silenceaux: Maybe 6. Maybe.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: Necros my most loved and hated
Lightningbro: I have to wonder why I love rarity systems, because I suddenly have a desire to find a new game with one...
Ukon_vasara: yeah, 5 if a moba, 6 if overwatch, everything else ever is 4
TehAmelie: it also does some funny things like multiplying monster XP with the number of players and multiplying it again by how close you are to each other. . .
Phothrism: jeez that's a lot of people for d d
korvys: 3 or 6 for Destiny
Kykiwi: 6 on Po E
Lightningbro: @thejuggernate Agree'd! They've always stuck to the N64 number of players and it's a shame because if you get online friends you need to figure out what 3 you want to play with.
ArmadilloAL: Oh man, playing this and Battlefield 1942 with 6 or 7 friends at LAN Planet was the best.
TehAmelie: Warcraft 3 has just recently had a patch to allow 24 players :D
Zaghrog: alo WoW these days is like 3, 5, 10 or 20
korvys: Yelling
korvys: Lots of yelling
ArcOfTheConclave: Lans are great
Spacecarl: wow raids these days scale thankfully.
Rockario: 4 always seemed the number for "How many controllers can you plug in"
Nenluen: in everquest, we had 72 man raids... once had a raid with a waiting list and the total number of people was over 100
DoctorOfBeard: 40 player raids often didn't happen
Lightningbro: What's FFXIV's raid number? Four sets of Eight makes...
abaoa_qu: Eq1 raids were a heck of a thing
abaoa_qu: Ffxiv is 24
lost_tv01: "i can barely get two of my friends together' woof; too real
Lolbard: 40 player raids very rarely actually happened. Some guilds were managing the raids with around 25 people
Zaghrog: ^
ZER0_TW0: FFXIV is 3 groups of 8
ArmadilloAL: I think people are more awarenof the dangers of addiction now.
hoktauri: I wanted to go play magic today so I'm going to be up to 2am working on orders to fit that in
abaoa_qu: EQ1 was as many as could get in the room without crashing
wildpeaks: that's why I stick to single player, or short multiplayer, easier to sqeeze in schedule
Lightningbro: @abaoa_qu Thank you, I figured that was the case, brain wasn't letting me do math.
Aarek: Vanilla raids were herding cats and had to be tuned to let like almost half of those 40 people not know what they were doing
TehAmelie: hmm maybe you can see the attraction of Eve Online where you get thousands and thousands of players ramming into each other in a single battle. where the devs like it if you warn them beforehand so they can brace that solar system.
El_Funko: We used to have weekend LANs just to play Diablo 2 together and it was great
Spacecarl: I can't wait to see people complain about geting 40 people together in wow classic
lost_tv01: ^ the dream
VHGS: I've got ONE DOLLAR
El_Funko: also to smoke the marijuana like a cigarette, but mostly the Diablo 2 too
wildpeaks: levelled up irl
DoodlestheGreat: U GIEV SOJ? :tf:
BrindleBoar: the DEVIL'S LETTUCE?!?
ArcOfTheConclave: playing halo at the lan
CataclysmicReverb: I never got a stone of jordan, probably over 1000 hours on this game
Dix: Buddies of mine in AIT used to take up the entire common room on our floor on weekends to do Diablo and Diablo 2 LAN parties
Lightningbro: I can sympathize, for me it was Phantasy Star Online's Photon Drops. God you gotta love getting a photon drop.... huh, I should get my squad together to play that this weekend.
Dix: And that was in 2008
SydPreviouslyHeadache: that is super relatable
silenceaux: I hold the conch!!
ArcOfTheConclave: "I'm the ca-pi-tan now"
Earthenone: conch is 1 SoJ
TehAmelie: i never cared even a little bit for trading in D2. got left behind by the people who knew to exploit Gheed to get Stones of Jordan for days and went "screw it"
BrindleBoar: stealth mining
gawag_: What’s stone of Jordan?
Solomon_Kain: BRD was the best designed instance in WoW IMO, so immersive and complex.
ArmadilloAL: Huh. I always hated having something other people would want because the thought of interacting with others made me anxious.
BrindleBoar: The Stone of Jordan was an item rare and valueable enough to replace gold as currency in Diablo
BrindleBoar: *Diablo 2
ArmadilloAL: It's 80% of the reason i play SSF in PoE.
Seagulyus: dont forget that molten core entrance was inside another instance that WASNT 40 man, so you had to go in groups or bring a warlock
SydPreviouslyHeadache: I remember doing Droks runs in Guild Wars. oh that felt so good, usually i'd do it for free but if the dude was a jerk I could just say no
Vyous: Wasn't it also used in the cube for crafting?
lost_tv01: unique s did have a stat requirement
Zaghrog: Solomon_Kain I might agree on that for a tabletop RPG, but most people just didn't have the petience for how long it was, considering how easy it was to get lst
Zaghrog: *lost
ArmadilloAL: Right, but rings didn't have stat requirements in general.
Solomon_Kain: that was the great part of BRD, you didnt have to do full runs of it, just the portions you were interested in, and you could take sneaky shortcuts between the sections to get to the bosses you wanted
j0xer: remember one shotting yourself with bloodgolem ironmaiden? yeah
lost_tv01: diablo 2 remastered when
SydPreviouslyHeadache: yeah, i remember speicifc patches and changes of Guild Wars for sure, I think that was the big game for my adolescence
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Kslo42: i still remember the day they added cooldowns to spells. made my firewall spam sorc useless :P
DoodlestheGreat: @lost_tv01, it's out already. It's called Path of Exile.
TehAmelie: i remember the days and months of speculating about patch 1.10
sjcTheos: thats a thing that dark souls ahs in spades
Issurru: Like running level 1 dungeons with level 3 people in Darkest Dungeon LUL
Kramburger: "Laughs in rightclick" needs to be a quote for SOMETHING
lost_tv01: @DoodlestheGreat I mean yeaaaah
lost_tv01: also torchlight
SydPreviouslyHeadache: thank you so much Adam and Cam
abaoa_qu: The griffin in eq1 omg
korvys: !storm
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Rhynerd: Thanks for the stream!
korvys: Path of Exile?
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SydPreviouslyHeadache: dang i wish I could have gotten into Torch light, it just did not leave me with the same impact
NathanJay_GA: Thanks for the talking sim! I'd just like to say that "Adam talks about a thing he likes" is my favourite new genre of 2018 :D
Phothrism: oh man can we have Adam on talking sim again some day?
korvys: !advice
LRRbot: It's really hard to kill someone if they don't trust you.
korvys: o.O
Earthenone: !findquote trust
LRRbot: Quote #5347: "We built this house of lies on a foundation of truth, so that you can trust our lies!" —Ian [2018-09-30]
silenceaux: That is grim advice. Woooow
Rhynerd: Was that added during Vampyr?
Lightningbro: @SydPreviouslyHeadache I can agree, I beat Torchlight 1, but only got to about chapter 4 in TL 2 and I can't formulate why.
OriginalGarwulf: This was one of the best Talking Simulators in a while.
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weasely: Love Talking Sim. I always enjoy hearing you guys talking about games and the thoughts behind them.
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SydPreviouslyHeadache: thank you Lightningbro, i'm glad I'm not alone
lost_tv01: welp im loading up diablo 2 tonight now : ]
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Moddington: I bounced off TL2 super hard. I was finding it super easy, so I decided to not spend stat points until it starting becoming hard. gave up at level 20 'cause I still hadn't spent any
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o0sk_ren0o: "Stay a while, and listen. The Dark Lord Diablo...." This game has so many memories for me.
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Rhynerd: Either this game or a game heavily inspired by it
Rhynerd: like Fate.
azlinea: I missed the name of gifter but thank you!
o0sk_ren0o: SK_Ren
silenceaux: I'm actually amazed I /missed/ Diablo 2. By all accounts someone in my friend group should have found it.
zWeApOnz: Man I love the music from this act. Listen to it almost every week.
mtvcdm: This now ends another LRR broadcast day. On behalf of everyone at LRR, good night, and good morning.
silenceaux: Later I found Path of Exile, somehow.
Lightningbro: I find it weird that I always look to see if people can mis-pronounce my name, I'm surprised that the only mis-pronounce i've seen is "Lightening" instead of "Lightning" dang, guess my name's intuitive... I suppose that's relazing seeing as teachers always annoyied me claiming I didn't know my own name.
TacitusVigil: @mtvcdm Good afternoon to you too. :)
devintownfish: cheer100 Adam, Cameron yall make me so happy seeing AND HEARING this game again the rouge camp theme was the first song i learned on the guitar
SydPreviouslyHeadache: thanks for the stream, have a good night everyone
wildpeaks: what will be next week, Cultist Sim maybe given it was planned last week ?
Spacecarl: So much Adam, Hooray!
Robot_Bones: oh boy more call the cthlulus
SydPreviouslyHeadache: Gotta save people from the Chonic
ruscobrog: seabatBRAIN seabatBRAIN seabatBRAIN seabatBRAIN seabatBRAIN seabatBRAIN seabatBRAIN
Spacecarl: definitely consider that darkest dungeon talking sim. that would be sweet
korvys: Who else is going to Unplugged? Adam, Alex... Beej... was I misssing someone?
xantos69: Have a good night
DoodlestheGreat: G'nite, everyone.
Rhynerd: bye!
Lightningbro: How often does Adam's Gamehaus happen? Because I NEED to embrace that Dark Chronicle playthrough if he's going through with that.
DoodlestheGreat: @lightningbro, it's usually every Saturday morning.
wicker_knight: every saturday or thereabouts
Lightningbro: Thank you @DoodlestheGreat and @wicker_knight
ruscobrog: LRRs going to PAX Unplugged: It’s Beej, Adam, Alex and Cori
wicker_knight: occasionally I think he doesn't because they're filming something, or he'll end early because of LIVE
DoodlestheGreat: You should also be sure to follow Seabats, Adam's solo channel.
Earthenone: also lrr adjacent jacob is going
Lightningbro: (Scribbles into notebook) good, goooood...
sag3error: Is Ben streaming kh3d tonight?
Earthenone: to unplugged
ruscobrog: Oh yea? Neat!
Dix: I'll be at PAX Unplugged too :D
DoodlestheGreat: @sag3error, yes, he justv started.
Lightningbro: (Squee's) Whelp to Ben's channel gottagothanksbye!